At least no one got killed. :rolleyes:

[mljdeckard]

These guys (who obviously are going to suffer a setback in their desired employment with NASA,) were demonstrating whether or not a Glock will fire out of battery. They were wrong.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10248669

TREMONTON -- Two people were injured when a gun went off inside their vehicle near the Utah-Idaho border.

The driver, 23-year-old Benjamin Baugh of American Fork, is at Bear River Valley Hospital in Tremonton. We understand he is undergoing surgery. The front seat passenger, 26-year-old Sterling Glines of Hereford, Ariz., was driven by his parent to a hospital in Salt Lake City. Devin Belnap, 22, and Mark Dunn, 23, were not hurt.

The four men, who are students at Brigham Young University-Idaho, were traveling south on Interstate 15 around noon, on their way to Salt Lake City for General Conference.

When they were near the town of Portage, the highway patrol says Glines had the pistol. He took the magazine out and showed it to the other passengers. They looked at it and gave it back to him.

Cpl. John McMahon, with the Utah Highway Patrol, explained, "He replaced the magazine in the gun and slid the slide forward, which chambered around into the barrel of the gun. The driver then asked him a question about the safety issues of the glock; one of which is if you move the slide of the gun backwards it disengages the trigger and the gun doesn't fire. The passenger, unfortunately, wanted to show this safety issue and didn't disengage the slide far enough."

The highway patrol says Glines then pulled the trigger and the gun went off. The bullet went through his hand and hit the driver in the forearm. Part of the bullet lodged in the driver's forearm, but also exited and hit the driver side door and shattered the window.

Baugh was able to safely pull the car over safely and called 911. The highway patrol says Glines legally owned the gun and had a concealed weapon permit, but they say he did not follow the number one rule, which investigators say is to always treat the gun as if it's loaded. The highway patrol is still investigating this case, and they say charges could possibly be filed.

I just made my two oldest boys watch this story, and even THEY could tell me that the reporters were wrong. These guys didn't break the number one rule. THEY BROKE ALL FOUR.

 

[Nick5182]

Jeez....




...yeah, that's about all I can say...

 

[DeepSouth]

You can treat crazy but you can't fix STUPID.

 

[Lonestar49]

...

Almost a curiosity killed the cat moment..

With friends like that who needs enemy's


Ls

 

[mljdeckard]

I'll say it again.

There's no such thing as a fool-proof system, it's a question of finding a sufficiently talented fool. There's always a fool out there trying to make a name for himself.

 

[Clifford]

Out of battery firing hu? I wonder if it KB'd

Really it's a glock sooner or later someone's gonna say it

 

[Officers'Wife]

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

Or perhaps in this case God protects drunkards and fools. I pity the poor RN that had to bandage the wound.

 

[mljdeckard]

Fools, drunks, and small children. There is no other explanation for how me and my friends survived high school.

 

[Bovice]

Why the hell would you want to show everyone your magazine? It's not like it's a playboy or anything.

 

[kenno]

They were drunk, only drunkards will let another drunkard 'play' with a gun like this!

 

[mljdeckard]

Unlikely. They were leaving BYU Idaho to attend LDS general conference. Not saying it's impossible for any of them to drink, but it's unlikely under THESE particular circumstances. This brings us back to......FOOLS.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Wonder if he'll lose his CHL. Pretty bonehead move that he'll never forget. Broke all 4 rules and shot his buddy.

 

[Kentucky_Rifleman]

Wonder if he'll lose his CHL. Pretty bonehead move that he'll never forget. Broke all 4 rules and shot his buddy.

Not to mention blowing a 40 cal hole in his hand. Man, that had to smart...

I teach high school English in Kentucky, and I had a student last year, a girl with a military fiancee, who shot herself in the foot while playing with his .45 ACP. She hit herself in the middle of her right foot, about 2 inches back from her toes. 6 months and 3 surgeries later doctors were still operating on an outpatient basis, removing more fragments of the copper jacket as her foot continued to heal.

She said it sucked. I believed her.

KR

 

[ChronoCube]

I just made my two oldest boys watch this story, and even THEY could tell me that the reporters were wrong. These guys didn't break the number one rule. THEY BROKE ALL FOUR.

The reporters/police were not wrong per se. They only claimed that he broke rule #1 -- they did not claim that he only broke rule #1. Subtle difference.

 

[Driftertank]

They were drunk, only drunkards will let another drunkard 'play' with a gun like this!

No, they were Mormon. They're confused easily when operating vehicles bigger than bicycles....


Just kidding. Several of my best friends are mormons.

 

[orionengnr]

Journalistic integrity is a lost art...

which chambered around

um..., you mean, "which chambered a round"

The highway patrol says Glines then pulled the trigger and the gun went off.

Imagine that.

The highway patrol says Glines legally owned the gun and had a concealed weapon permit, but they say he did not follow the number one rule, which investigators say is to always treat the gun as if it's loaded.

As the OP states, they seem to have overlooked the other three as well...

 

[Webbj0219]

OK, how about we test the glocks safety features from outside of the vehicle next time? And preferable not pointed at me. Thanx.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

IF a gun is slightly out of battery (slide or bolt unlocked and not fully closed), the fall of the striker or hammer will hit the camming surface of the bolt or slide, and will close the slide or bolt and will often lock the breech and still have energy to fire the gun. If you have a dirty gun and the slide is slightly out of battery in a life-or-death situation, wouldn't you expect (and want) the gun to fully close, lock the breech and possibly fire from the fall of the striker and hammer? The disconnect to prevent out-of-battery discharge is NOT intended to be a safety device.

Let's see, how does this situation match some of the safety rules drilled into my head over the years?
Treat every gun with the respect due a lethal weapon. Not there.
Never let the muzzle point at anything you would not mind destroyed. Not there.
Finger off the trigger until the sights are on an intended target. Not there.
Positively identify your target and be aware of whoever/whatever is in the line of fire. Not there.

This does prove one of my memes: mechanical safeties being mechanical may fail, and the more safeties, the more chances of failure, and dependence on mechanical safeties is a danger in itself.

 

[shockwave]

Hard to understand how the idjit put a round through his own hand. In order to do that, you would have to have your hand over the muzzle of the gun. That action alone demonstrates a total lack of respect for the weapon and for the rules of safety. Every time we see an incidence of negligent discharge and injury, the basic rules of safety were being ignored.

New shooters, take careful note.

 

[Claude Clay]

to stupid to test it without a live round?

collage aint gonna help them dudes........
though given their proven abilities--im thinking ramalama
may just have the perfect job for them;

painting the lines on his b-ball court

 

[ol' scratch]

WOW!! What a couple of window lickers.

 

[skyraider]

I believe it was mentioned above you can't fix stupid

 

[oldfool]

You can treat crazy but you can't fix STUPID.

yup, ditto that

PS
but for any of those others who just haven't noticed yet...
there is nothing political or religious about "stoopid"
unfortunately, it is really is "equal opportunity for all"
Sam Colt couldn't fix that, John M Browning couldn't fix that, and neither could Gaston Glock

 

[searcher451]

Sad to say, but this reflects poorly on every gunowner -- every single one of us.

 

[Skillet]

(God looking down from heaven) "Sigh"