At this rate, I'll be able to enjoy use of my suppressor by the time I'm old and deaf

[rjrivero]

CoRoMo, You're missing the relevant part of that document.

9.12.1 NFA Transfers to other than individuals. Subsequent to the approval of an application requesting to transfer an NFA firearm to, or on behalf of, a partnership, company, association, trust, estate, or corporation, the authorized person picking up the firearm on behalf of, a
partnership, company, association, trust, estate, or corporation from the FFL must complete the
Form 4473 with his/her personal information and undergo a NICS check. See also, question P60
in the ATF FAQs.

Bold added by me. There are differences in transferring a Title 2 firearm to an individual, vs. transferring them to a "Legal Entity."

It seems that an individual transfer, it's okay for that individual to pick up an NFA Registered item by filling out a 4473 without it going through a background check. However, if you're picking it up on behalf of another entity, Trust, Corp, LLC, Estate, etc., then an NICS background check MUST be done on the individual picking up that item.

The problem becomes if you have more than one Trustee. You can have one who picks up the item, can pass the NICS background check. Then another one who is an prohibited person also named on that trust.

 

[CoRoMo]

Ah. Hope my NFA dealer doesn't get dinged for that. I'll have to see if he knows this.

 

[MasterSergeantA]

CoRoMo, You're missing the relevant part of that document.



Bold added by me. There are differences in transferring a Title 2 firearm to an individual, vs. transferring them to a "Legal Entity."

It seems that an individual transfer, it's okay for that individual to pick up an NFA Registered item by filling out a 4473 without it going through a background check. However, if you're picking it up on behalf of another entity, Trust, Corp, LLC, Estate, etc., then an NICS background check MUST be done on the individual picking up that item.

The problem becomes if you have more than one Trustee. You can have one who picks up the item, can pass the NICS background check. Then another one who is an prohibited person also named on that trust.

ANOTHER reason I stay a member of this board! I learn something new every day. Thanks, rj.

(Of course, I am getting old so I forget a lot of things every day also...and probably repeat some of the stuff here. Oh well...)

 

[rjrivero]

Just remember the important stuff, MasterSergeantA. Anything you can look up isn't worth remembering!

Glad you find it interesting. The hardest thing we do as gun owners is try to stay legit!

 

[Mike OTDP]

What's so frustrating is that once you go through the NFA wickets once, it should be much faster to process a second purchase - and it isn't. I think ATF is being required to treat each transfer as a separate process.

 

[MasterSergeantA]

Mike,

I couldn't agree more. One would think that given today's computer capabilities it ought to be easy enough to classify an indivdual as a "good guy" and not run the same check every time. It ought to be as easy as a NICS check. Are fingerprints really necessary every time as well as a passport photo? Do they check with the State Department to see if I am a bad guy?

What makes me laugh (because I am too old to cry) is the notation on the Forms about the Paperwork Reduction Act. Oh yeah, sure...

 

[crawfobj]

The wait times are killing me. My first one was about 3.5 months. Now waiting on 2 more and about to send another one in. I'm getting to the point where I almost want to keep a steady flow of them going so I'll have something a year from now.

 

[fulltanghalo]

I'm right there too. First 2 SBR's took 4 months, unlucky draw for examiner. Now I have 2 cans on the shelf I might get luck and have by the end of summer. I'm thinking of doing an AR lower just to have something else coming down the pipe...

 

[Justin]

Got the call from my NFA dealer that my can was finally in on the Saturday before Easter. I finally got to go pick it up yesterday!

Can't wait to hit the range!

 

[Ian]

Congrats!

 

[Mot45acp]

Cashed Nov 30 and Dec 12......still waiting

Halo and Osprey respectively.

 

[Justin]

Ok, this is my first suppressor, and I'm probably a bit giddy from finally getting my hands on it.

But frankly, I should have started buying cans YEARS ago. This thing is awesome. I put a couple of hundred rounds down range last weekend, and I have to say that removing the requirement for hearing protection made the whole experience so much more pleasant.

Now I'm thinking I need a .223 can and an SBR upper...

 

[Magoo]

Congrats on getting your can. Yep, they're fun

I'm guessing you got a .22LR can (?). If so, check out the Tactical Solutions SB-X uppers. Seems like a good way to get a suppresed SBR-esque upper without the stamp cost and wait.

 

[wally]

Now I'm thinking I need a .223 can and an SBR upper...

Yeah but you'll still likely want hearing protection, that super-sonic crack is much louder than I expected.

 

[Justin]

I'm guessing you got a .22LR can (?). If so, check out the Tactical Solutions SB-X uppers. Seems like a good way to get a suppresed SBR-esque upper without the stamp cost and wait.

Yeah, a Tactical Solutions Cascade.

The AR upper it's on is a .22 TacSol. Despite the fact that it makes the gun longer overall, the whole setup is still light enough that it doesn't feel unwieldy, at least when plinking.

Yeah but you'll still likely want hearing protection, that super-sonic crack is much louder than I expected.

With the CCI Standard Velocity stuff, as well as the handful of .22 Short ammo I had rattling around, there was no noticeable crack.

With Federal bulk pack, though, it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear plugs or muffs.


Incidentally, does anyone know if I can use this can on a rifle chambered in .17HM2?