ATF shenanigans - Project Gunrunner

[LAK]

But not to a foreign power trying to defeat us in war.

It's not treason.

It is a foreign power, one that has allegiance to no particular country, an ideology that is foreign, and agenda to destroy ours. It is a war.

It is a subversive attack on our country.

In an open war with a specific nation such people would be tried for spying and subversion. Those holding American citizenship among them would be tried for treason.

They are overthrowing our government from the inside. They need to be treated as such.

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Je Suis Prest

 

[KBintheSLC]

This is nice to hear...

FoxNews.com previously reported that an often-quoted statistic that 90 percent of guns used in Mexico crimes came from the U.S. was, in fact, a myth. Only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have actually been traced to the U.S.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-atf-allegations-agency-allowing-guns-mexico/

 

[mustang_steve]

The ATF does need to go, no organization should have the power to "will" something illegal without legislative due process.

 

[Dave Workman]

ALERT: CBS story on 'Gunrunner' ATF scandal tonite

Many of you High Roaders have read my stuff about this.


http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/02/breaking-story-cbs-to-take-up-gunwalker.html

Wednesday, February 23, 2011

BREAKING STORY: CBS to take up Gunwalker Scandal tonight!


David Codrea:
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/breaking-cbs-to-report-tonight-on-project-gunwalker

 

[Travis McGee]

Great, thanks, the radar is cranking that way!

 

[Geno]

Thanks for the post.

Geno

 

[Shadow 7D]

It's on Newradio hour and Half hour updates, says that there are now more ATF agents coming out and that it was almost to fisticuffs over letting the guns walk.

 

[Geno]

Wow, that was some of the most objective firearms reporting I have seen in a very long time. The focus actually was not on the firearms directly, but more on the misconduct. I especially appreciate the fact that the news stated that the FFLs wanted to cease the sales, but the ATF did not allow it. How ironic then, that the ATF now wants to issue "demand letters" in four states bordering Mexico, based on multiple sales of 30 cal "assault" rifles. Perhaps along with adding a Congressional audit of the Fed, Congress should add an audit of the BATFE. A wonderful outcome might be that the agency's acronym be reduced from BATFE to just B. Thanks again for the alert.

Geno

 

[merlinfire]

I hope the result of this scandal is that congress rethinks the wisdom of granting such sweeping regulatory power to an executive agency, with so little oversight.

 

[Legionnaire]

Link to story:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/main20035609.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1

 

[JTHunter]

Typical "snow job" by a major media outlet.
Who was it, several years ago, when one of these "news magazines" was doing a story on the danger of "sidesaddle" fuel tanks on certain pick-ups? They didn't get the nice explosion and fire from a side impact so they added some "ignitors" to "embellish" the explosive potential.

 

[walker944]

...and the very last line of the story says it all!!!

In a letter, the Justice Department which oversees ATF says the agency has never knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to suspected gunrunners.

 

[crossrhodes]

Dang I missed it

Can any point me in the direction to see this in print. I wish I'd know it was on the news.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Check your local station, most have the segments and I think it's up at CBS News.

 

[Mac11]

Is it strange that none of the other networks have picked up on this yet. CBS has run the segment a couple of times this morning tho. Maybe its too fresh.... or maybe its in the process of being squashed. Sure makes me wonder what other underhanded crap ATF if trying behind our backs!

 

[paramedic70002]

It was 20/20 that rigged the trucks to explode.

 

[MikeNice]

It was Dateline NBC. General Motors actually filed suit for libel after the show aired.

I am glad that CBS is bringing some attention to this. It is time one of the major networks actually took a break from crucifying guns and their owners.

 

[MartinS]

You can write to Senator Grassley, you don't have to be an Iowan. Tell him the ATF is blowing smoke in the face of a United States Senator and it offends you. He is Ranking Member of the Senate Committee of the Judiciary. He is on this, show him you are concerned.

 

[Dave Workman]

CCRKBA just "upped the ante"

Bellevue v. Beltway: Gottlieb tells Holder ‘Investigate ATF or resign’

Washington State’s leading gun rights advocate wants heads to roll over the “Project Gunrunner” scandal, which was launched in 2009 ostensibly to curb the flow of American guns – some traced back to the Evergreen State – that are allegedly fueling the violent Mexican drug cartel war.

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-...lieb-tells-holder-investigate-atf-or-resign-1

Or try this:
http://tinyurl.com/4s8ejm5

 

[Dave Workman]

Dang I missed it

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Can any point me in the direction to see this in print. I wish I'd know it was on the news.

Not to worry:

There are links in my column (above)

 

[TexasBill]

Typical "snow job" by a major media outlet.
Who was it, several years ago, when one of these "news magazines" was doing a story on the danger of "sidesaddle" fuel tanks on certain pick-ups? They didn't get the nice explosion and fire from a side impact so they added some "ignitors" to "embellish" the explosive potential.

That was NBC's "Dateline" show. And NBC paid dearly for it, as they should have.

Why are you so dismissive? What "snow job" did you see that others didn't? And why the comparison to the Dateline scandal? Do you think CBS had a mole in the BATFE running the operation to discredit the agency? Or perhaps they hired a hit man to take out the DHS agent and make it look like the cartel did it using what may have been guns brought in from the U.S. during the operation their mole was running?

I am not saying we should be excited because CBS is now "pro-gun" because they certainly aren't. But I think they did the public a service by making public some of what government agencies will do to justify their existence or accumulate more power.

 

[Dave Workman]

I agree, Bill.
I watched the piece a couple of times and can find no problem with it. CBS and especially reporter Atkisson did a bang-up job. That the agency is circling its wagons is no surprise. This is an embarrassment of monumental proportions and as Gottlieb said in the thing I quoted (above), it's time for a full bore investigation, and those responsible need to be fired immediately.

As Atkisson said, this scandal may be bigger than Waco and Ruby Ridge, if the critics are right. Maybe it is. I don't really know, but what I do know because I have copies of documents and Grassley's letters, is that ATF really screwed this pooch and and there's a dead federal officer to underscore that.


I came in late on this because it was Codrea's story and I don't feel like poaching. But then some local angles popped up and I went after them.

Thanks for reading and joining this discussion!

 

[Mac11]

Just wrote both WA Senators to voice my concern and to enlist their support for Sen Grassely's investigation into "Gunrunner". Hope you all do likewise in your home states. FOXNEWS is doing a report on it right now.

 

[MartinS]

Right.
You can write to Senator Grassley, you don't have to be an Iowan. Tell him the ATF is blowing smoke in the face of a United States Senator and it offends you. He is Ranking Member of the Senate Committee of the Judiciary. He is on this, show him you are concerned.

 

[2ndAmFan]

Wrote him.