macavada
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The problem is that you have an agenda, and you tend to back it up with half-truths and outright lies, because the ends justify the means. All those "stats" you just rattled off don't amount to anything if you can't back them up. These anecdotal "stats" perpetuated by those with the agenda can't be trusted until they are proven stats.
I stated previously that they steal SSN's. So what. They aren't committing identity theft fraud with them, they are paying into the SS system into some legal citizen's account.
I'll agree that illegal aliens do take advantage of the public schools system, because it is true and a fact, not because you say so. If they're going to be here illegally anyway, better off for everyone that they be in school where they can "Americanize" and assimilate, rather than be out in the streets learning how to be criminals. If we don't want them in the school system, we need to keep them out of the country. Until then, the expenses paid into the school system is a sunk cost, so to speak.
I'll examine the full scope of the problem, and perhaps with your help, but I'm not going to buy into hyperbole and false statements purported as facts just because they are posted on this forum.
If you want to point out what they cost us, that's fine. I'll agree to whatever can be shown to be true. When you make statements that fit with the ideology, even if they aren't true, but they fit the "spirit" of your argument, that is simply wrong.
So, again, are illegals bringing in their grandparents so that they can collect SSI? (That was the point of contention.)
If you notice, I didn't argue the other assertions in your statement, just one point.
I stated previously that they steal SSN's. So what. They aren't committing identity theft fraud with them, they are paying into the SS system into some legal citizen's account.
I'll agree that illegal aliens do take advantage of the public schools system, because it is true and a fact, not because you say so. If they're going to be here illegally anyway, better off for everyone that they be in school where they can "Americanize" and assimilate, rather than be out in the streets learning how to be criminals. If we don't want them in the school system, we need to keep them out of the country. Until then, the expenses paid into the school system is a sunk cost, so to speak.
I'll examine the full scope of the problem, and perhaps with your help, but I'm not going to buy into hyperbole and false statements purported as facts just because they are posted on this forum.
If you want to point out what they cost us, that's fine. I'll agree to whatever can be shown to be true. When you make statements that fit with the ideology, even if they aren't true, but they fit the "spirit" of your argument, that is simply wrong.
So, again, are illegals bringing in their grandparents so that they can collect SSI? (That was the point of contention.)
Maybe you should fear what it's costing to pay their medical bills and educate their children and pay SSI to their grandparents.
If you notice, I didn't argue the other assertions in your statement, just one point.