Attempted break-in, shooting, 911 recording...redux

[rainbowbob]

Anybody else raise one eyebrow at that line, or am I just a bit off?

Noxx:
All that can be seen is my smile.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Am I the only one that noticed that this guy did , almost in order, exactly what the gun gurus here on THR say you should never do in a HD shooting?

He:

1. Shot through the door W/out identifying his target

2. Called 911 and the first words out of his mouth were " I shot somebody"

3. (This is my personal sacred cow) He made an explicit recorded statement to a cop ( or a cop's agent) W/out consulting a lawyer.

4. And repeatedly stated remorse over the shooting and even implied that he shouldn't have shot ( " No, it's not OK. I just shot a kid)

And yet he still got " No Billed".

While at least 3 out of 4 are darned stupid things to do, being no billed reflects that regardless of what was said, he had the right to use lethal force and this was held up by the grand jury.

 

[Otahyoni]

Seeing as the above list is a list of things to NOT do, what would you tell the 911 operator if you had shot someone in self defense?

Either in public or at your home?

This is something that's never been explained to me...

 

[TallPine]

Seeing as the above list is a list of things to NOT do, what would you tell the 911 operator if you had shot someone in self defense?

If one could possibly have the presence of mind to do so, maybe something like:

"Someone broke into my home and is now injured. Please send an ambulance and the police."

Along with name and address, etc ...

 

[Treo]

There are a whole bunch of threads dealing W/ what to do after an SD shooting. But basically what this guy did, wasn't it

 

[FCFC]

There are a whole bunch of threads dealing W/ what to do after an SD shooting. But basically what this guy did, wasn't it

LOL. Good one.

The basis for what the he did after the shooting was really the same as before and during the shooting: panic.

He panicked all the way through. Start to finish.

I have no respect for the man's judgment. He killed a person he really didn't have to kill.

 

[SSN Vet]

I have no respect for the man's judgment. He killed a person he really didn't have to kill.

which implies that you think the world would be a better place if multiple fellon jr. got away to terrorize the neighborhood, take what did not belong to him and "graduate" to more violent crime....ultimately killing someone innocent.

The home owner was scared....not all are Rambo material, or even aspire to be such.

The home owner was prepared....

The home owner is alive....

his family (if he has one) is safe...

The neighborhood is safer....

the teenyboppers at school have something to think about...

Despite all his "tactical" mistakes...he faired better than the guy in the mall shooting who had the gunman in his sights and then choked....only to be paralyzed himself and others killed.

The man panicked....perhaps "panic" is a God given "tactical" reaction to spark people to stop analyzing and act.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I have no respect for the man's judgment. He killed a person he really didn't have to kill.

You have no respect for a man who stopped an intruder, potentially the first of many (often working in groups), from entering his home? Youy have no respect for a man who stopped an intruder who may have been there to kill him or his family?

Did you stop to think for a minute that the intruder didn't have to break into the house? Did you stop to think that the intruder entered into the legal activity knowing full well that such actions are HUGELY risky?

It is the intruder who lost his own life engaging in an illegal activity that threatened the lives of the home's occupants.

You may have no respect for the homeowner, but he is alive today to suffer your wrath. He has lived out the "better judged by 12 than carried by 6" mantra and been duly no-billed.

You don't have to shoot when somebody is coming in your house.

 

[Dumptruck]

The genepool got a dose of chlorine. A degenerate kid got killed in the act of breaking into someone's house. I really can't bring myself to feel bad for anyone but the shooter. He has to live with what he was forced to do.

Like others have said, the homeowner has no way of knowing if the intentions of a burglar are only to steal.

 

[ilbob]

I have zero sympathy for criminals who are injured or die in the act of committing their crimes. Its is 100% their fault for committing the crime in the first place.

This second guessing that goes on by those of you who want to wait a few more seconds and put yourself in even more danger before you take action is kind of pathetic.

THE CRIMINAL IS ALWAYS AT FAULT!!!!

As for what he told the 911 operator, I doubt very few people here would have the presence of mind to spout off the very clever things you think you should say after such an incident.

He had the presence of mind to do what had to be done, first to shoot, then to call 911. Thats about all I think you can expect.

 

[bowl443]

I have no respect for the man's judgment. He killed a person he really didn't have to kill.

What you're supposed to do and what really happens are usually different. I think most of us would like to think we'd be thinking clearly, but that may not be the case for the majority.

Maybe his babbling, his honest reaction to shooting a 'kid' and his overall attitude to the situation helped him in the end.

Had he been reluctant to give answers to the cop, had he made a cold call to 911, had he shown no emotion over killing someone, he wouldn't have skated.

The right answer isn't always the right answer...