Failed Home Invasion act 2

[revjen45]

Re: "Shooting to wound" (STW)
1) STW can be used as evidence that in your own mind lethal force was not justified in the circumstance, and your state of mind is an important legal consideration in a defensive shooting.
2) STW requires better marksmanship than a COM shot, hence less chance to prevail under dire circumstances. More chance to miss also means more danger to innocent parties. Even if successful it is less likely to be a stopping shot.
3) STW doesn't mean the shootee won't die of being shot. A shot in the leg can easily rupture the femoral artery causing death by exanguination.
4) Any defensive shooting instructor will tell you that warning shots and STW are never an option.
5) If lethal force is justified, any consideration for the well being of the assailant indicates abominable judgement.
It's never a good idea.

 

[Fred Fuller]

Working Man,

You said:

Perhaps OT but...

Quote:
I have trained with several nationally known trainers who required proof of good citizenship before they'd admit a student into their classes.

Please explain exactly what this means.

Better I let a couple of them explain it for themselves-

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YAVAPAI FIREARMS ACADEMY, LTD.
APPLICATION FOR TRAINING

1. Please reserve _______________ space(s) for me in the class(es) indicated:

Date: ____________________ Date: __________________

Location: _________________ Location: ___________________

Weaponry: ________________ Weaponry: _________________

2. I enclose my deposit of $300 per space. I will pay the balance of my tuition upon registration. (Please make checks payable to YAVAPAI FIREARMS ACADEMY, LTD.) I understand that if I must cancel out of a class I will receive a full refund if I give at least 45 days notice. If I give less than 45 days notice I will forfeit my deposit. Payment in full is due at the course start.

3. I agree to abide meticulously by all safety procedures required of me and I understand that my instruction may be terminated at any time during the course if I fail to cooperate with safety requirements. I further agree to sign a statement releasing YAVAPAI FIREARMS ACADEMY, LTD. from responsibility for any injury I may sustain during the training program.

4. I agree to sign a sworn statement that I have never been convicted of any crime, at any time, in any jurisdiction.

5. In signing this application, I certify that I will be at least of sufficient legal age at the time of the class to possess the firearm, or will be accompanied by my parent or legal guardian.

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LFI Registration Pages

Please print this registration form and fax along with a copy of your character reference to (603)226-3554 or mail it to LFI Enterprises, Inc., PO Box 122, Concord, NH 03302-0122
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LFI REGISTRATION FORM



1. Please reserve a space for me in the _____________________ course dated _______________, located in ___________________________________. If that course is filled, sign me up for __________________________________________.

2. Enclosed is my payment in full for the above course. Your deposit will be returned upon 30 days written notice of cancellation.

3. As proof of good character, I enclose one of the following:

______(a) A letter of reference from a local official, i.e., Chief of Police, Sheriff, District Attorney, Judge, etc

______(b) A letter from a practicing attorney stating that I have no police record or history of institutionalization mental health care.

______(c) Proof of occupation in the law enforcement field.

______(d) A concealed carry permit or federal firearms license.

4. I agree to abide by all safety procedures required by the Institute and I agree to releasing the Institute from any responsibility for any injury sustained by me during the training program.

5. In signing this application, I certify that I am at least eighteen (18) years of age or I will be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.
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That help?

lpl/nc

 

[Baba Louie]

Face

Retribution and/or Retaliation... (by the BG, not the GG)

Expect it. Should one ever be forced to deal with a sociopath or a group of them successfully, do any forum members here really think that their thought process will be, "Oh darnit anyway. The good guy won that round, Live and learn I always say."?

Hardly. Read Mark MacYoungs essays on "Criminal Mindset".
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

How dare you cause him to lose face. It's your fault, never his.

BTDT. That's the reason I got my CCW. My small business got hit... Office burglary. BG caught. Already paroled for "Armed Robbery" in CA, he moved to LV to live with his Mommy. Got back into his lifestyle. Imprisoned for 5 - 7, he was paroled out in 33 months.
And yes, he actually came to my now relocated office, let me know he was out and was back in town, looked around the office and said "Nice stuff." He was gone by the time the police arrived and I'm sure he had a nice laugh with his buddies about it.

Face. An interesting concept.

 

[BigBadJohn]

Rule #2 Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to DESTROY.

 

[LightningJoe]

Good guys don't cut corners or look for fuzzy definitions to explain themselves, their attitudes or their conduct.

Could you imagine a law you wouldn't obey?

 

[tepin]

That is a good quote.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."

 

[Eyesac]

And that sort of suggestion is not going to pass muster here.

Clear?

Point taken, but I don't see how:

do what you have to do

Is an endorsement or suggestion of an illegal:

insurance round

Other than that, interesting story.

 

[w_houle]

It's what I love about KS; not only am I under no obligation to retreat, I also have no obligation to meet force with like force.

 

[revjen45]

#000 isn't considered to be birdshot is it?

 

[george29]

Yes, against the kind of big yellow bird seen on Sesame Street.

 

[chrlefxtrt]

I hope that I am lucky enough to never be "burgled" because while I comfortably slept with my 1911 on my nightstand, my worthless dog would most likely lick the perpetrator to death and try to get him to play while they cleaned out my house. If the bandit was of the feline variety... well that is a whole different ball game.

 

[Ready2Defend]

Retaliation by the threat or threats friends is a reality in any "good" shoot. In my mind it should be at a similer level of deterence to me that I may have big lawyer fees to defend me in court. I should never shoot unless I really fear for my life or the life of a family member. So if I really fear I shoot to stop the threat, but know the may ramifications may follow a long time.