Aviation types on THR?

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Re: Moderate icing, nasty weather, etc.

An old hand told me the best piece of safety equipment in your plane is the plastic in your wallet.

Two winters ago I was in South Dakota, hunting pheasants. We had a Bonanza and a 206 there. When it was time to leave, we had reports of moderate ice from the surface to 7000 feet.

No problem. Rent a car, drive 90 miles, buy three airline tickets, and leave the planes. Come back for them next week.

I rarely have to be somewhere on a specific date, and I find that weather rarely prevents me from making a trip. I won't mess with ice, though.

Stop in when you are heading by Natchitoches (IER). Nice airport. Two courtesy cars. Cheap 100LL. And good restaurants in town.

Oh, and the T-Bone is a great looking plane!

www.twinbonanza.com
 
You know, that is wise advice indeed.

Of course you could have just made a couple more hunts up there in South Dakota.

I am going to take you up on a visit to Nachitoches some day in the not too distant future. We stop there enroute from Texas to visit friends and relatives in BTR and MSY. Dinner at The Landing is a must, it has food just like my mother and grandmother used to make. A wonderous experience for a refugee exiled to Texas. I learned about it from a famous radio show host.

The Twin Bonanza is a classic. We had one on the ramp at BTR when I was in college. They are huge machines as you well know. You could live in it if you had to. Hope you have many happy flights in your new machine.

The way you are going, it will be a King Air by the end of 2005...

Thanks,

Zone Five
 
Tom,
Let me know if you're ever headed this way, and I'll give you some good handling. Can you spell Direct ? :D


The way you are going, it will be a King Air by the end of 2005...
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I nominate a Citation. Most of the lower models (500-550) are single piloted....yet the cruise is almost twice that of most prop twins. BE20 is a damn fine twin, though.

An old hand told me the best piece of safety equipment in your plane is the plastic in your wallet.
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Thats good thinking. I can't count the number of low time GA pilots that end up white-knuckling it through known icing and turbulence. And out here, you can only fly so low before you find stratocumulus granite.....
 
I've discussed this with a number of pilots . . .

There is some sort of connection with pilots and guns. Not that all shooters are interested in aviation, but a high percentage of the pilots I know are interested in guns.

In my amateur psychologist mode, I think it has to do with being self-reliant, and being willing to provide for your own safety.

Or not. <grin>

Oh. try www.avsig.com for more aviation talk.
 
I don't know Tom, I used to think that as well. Yet flying with a large number of pilots each year, including lots of former military, I rarely run across anyone with a real enthusiasm for firearms.

I've been with my company for almost twenty years, and have run across perhaps five or six have CHL's, about four or five more avid hunters, and the rest would rather play golf. Another strange aspect is that few are into light airplanes. It seems to be worse with the pilots who came up through instructing in general aviation, they seem happy to have "escaped" the Cessnas (or as my little bud says "Cnessnas") or something.

The firearms connection seems even weaker with the younger generation. That speaks volumes about the challenges we face going forward.

Zone 5
 
You may be right, Zone. I hang out with GA pilots, so I don't know the attitudes of the fly-for-hire folks.

I'm currently watching "my" T-Bone heading south, across Illinois, using Flight Explorer, which lets you watch all IFR traffic.

He's gonna get wet today, and he's fighting nasty headwinds.
 
Guns and private planes

So, if you are flying your own plane, what are the regs and the laws about having guns with you?

Not so much CCW, which I understand, but just putting your shotgun or rifle in the plane?

I'm assuming it's just like a car trip. FOPA rules apply. Unloaded and locked up should do it as far as complying with state laws, right?
 
Not a pilot myself, but my Dad (now 80yrs) went into the Army Air Corps in '43 as a private, and retired in '66 as a Lt. Col., and command pilot. Have three uncles who were also pilots from WWII on. Their Form-5's make some interesting reading. For some reason I have a strong interest in aviation history :D .

best, RG
 
"So, if you are flying your own plane, what are the regs and the laws about having guns with you?"

There are virtually no FAA regulations regarding how a private pilot may carry firearms on an airplane. It's entirely up to local authorities, so if you're worried, you have to check everywhere you land and take off, preferably before the flight.

Tim
 
Atc1man, didn't you mean to say

"The dreaded Petrocumulus" (petr- being a Greek root meaning rock or rocky)

I.e., clouds with rocks in them.
 
The dreaded Petrocumulus" (petr- being a Greek root meaning rock or rocky)
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Nah....its just an inside joke about very tall rocks. We've got 10,000+ peaks in our airspace.

As far as flying a private plane with firearms, don't forget that most airports might be prohibited areas. I'd imagine you'd need to unload and lock in a case, and have the ammo in a seperate locked case. Pre Sept11th, I'd bet nobody would check. However..these days, the Dept of Homie Secuirty is looking out for your best interest....
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Does being an aeronautical engineer count?

During my studies I've countless times been asked, "So you wanna fly, too?" or "Do you want to become an astronaut?"
To which I always replied, "No, we let others fly. Or do you study mechanical engineering to drive a bus?" :D
 
Another flyer...

Hey y'all,

Another flyer here... I'm a captain at a large regional airline that's about to start up yet another low fare operation out of Washington DC. I'm out in CVG where it's much quieter flying than our old base of La Gaurdia. I do miss the Expressway Visual, though.. :(


I haven't been in a small plane in a long time, though I'm sure some of you would consider my little DoJet a small plane.. :) It is nice to climb like a homesick angel, though!

Here's a pic of her: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/420493/L/

I want to get back into some light plane flying, do some aerobatics and such. My gun addiction just keeps getting in the way!

In regards to not running across too many gun guys at work, my airline happens to be filled with them. Have people that do IDPA, ISPC (the race guns, not sure i got the abbreviation right), trap and skeet types, and I can't begin to count how many ar15 owners we have. Maybe I'm just lucky!


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Private pilot, IFR rated and current. Owner of a Beech Bonanza, in fact, I flew today on business form Pensacola to Auburn Al. The pilot, me, is always armed. Today I carried a Kimber Pro, condition one. No prisioners.
 
Q: How do you know if there's a pilot at a party?
A: Oh, don't worry...he'll tell you....
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Skunk,
You can count this pilot as one who won't be talking shop at a party, unless someone else brings it up. I live thousands of miles away from where I'm based, and while I know a couple of guys who live nearby who also work for my company, I rarely socialize with them. I do this intentionally. There are simply far more interesting things to talk about--Guns, family, politics, shooting, what I'm planting in my garden this year, holsters, etc., etc., etc.--than anything that might have to do with "work". If you're frustrated by hearing from know-it-all pilots (and believe me--I know your pain), I have been equally frustrated when, at a social event, someone asks me about the TSA, 'Why does my ticket cost this much?', or the inevitable...'What route are you flying?' I hear enough talk about "work", while at "work".

...some sort of connection with pilots and guns...
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Tom,
I've noticed that too, but its hard to filter out my own interests from what I'm observing in others. If you and I are both correct about this connection, I'd chalk it up to both interests being involved with machines built to fairly tight tolerances where, if something goes wrong, it goes wrong very badly. IOW, mastering something that can bite back if you're not careful.
 
Amen,

I'll bet few commercial pilots are watching that "Airline" show on the tube about the daily tribulations at Southwest.

It would be like Tom going hunting, fishing, flying on his days off...hmmmm, something doesn't quite fit my premise here. :)

Zone 5
 
>>It would be like Tom going hunting, fishing, flying on his days off...hmmmm, something doesn't quite fit my premise here.<<

Kinda, sorta.

If the commercial pilot is also an aviation nut, then he or she will be into aviation apart from work. Some commercial pilots, though, are like some cops. The airplane/gun is just a tool of work, and it has no appeal once the job ends.

Oh, I took delivery of the T-Bone.

Can't quit grinning. Now I have to figure out where to put the gun rack!
 
Oh, I took delivery of the T-Bone.
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Have you noticed how loud that puppy is, yet?
:neener:

Seriously, though, enjoy it!

Today is the first 50*& sunny day since early December around here...I'm at work (on break) right now, and the VFR's are out in squadrons!
 
I used to fly. Too many bad things happened. Once you have an engine blow on takeoff you really don't want to fly piston powered any more. Once you've picked through a few plane crash sites you realize you don't want to fly turbine powered either. Unless you can have an ejection seat. They don't put such things in any civilian airplane which is decently affordable.

So I'm a groundhog now. :rolleyes:
 
Atc1man and Orthonym,

Cumulogranite is also another way of saying it.

Private: Airplane single engine land.

Working on my rotary wing add on.
 
I have a bachelor's in Aeronautical Technology. I've had my A&P ticket since 1990. Worked for a "major jet engine manufacturer" for 9 years as a field tech rep in Europe, Asia, and North America. Worked the Airbus A340 flight test program in Toulouse through certification.

Now I'm a professional winemaker. And love it.
 
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