Bad situation at Range..

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So I took my wife out to the range on Saturday, I took my Pt145, she took her tomcat, and I also took my sks..so I'm going through the rules with her about handguns, you know the usuals( don't ever point a gun at anybody loaded or unloade, etc etc etc) shes repeating them back to me and ofcourse doing a great job at grouping her shots..well Im standing there watching her when the guy that was in the range next to us taps me on the shoulder. I turn around and what do I see a glock 17 being pointed at my chest..the guy tells me " Hey do you think you can unjam this for us?" Yes people it was loaded and jamed..needless to say I was pissed off..I took it from his hand pointed it towards the target wall and unjamed it for him..I was like what the hell were you thinking bro? you could have shot me..I was so pissed off..:cuss:
 
I would have returned his gun to him.....in pieces and he would never have had to worry about a jam agian.

Forget not having someone to properly teach you the rules, common sense dictates you don't point a frickin gun at someones chest jam or no jam, double for a loaded gun (we know the rules sure, but to someone that doesn't common sense should kick in even more for a loaded gun)

As to no RO the one range I used to (key word alert back there) never had an RO on the range. Paid your fee and if you had a problem went out to the gun shop area to get an RO, that doesn't help me much if some idiot just shot me through the solid wood lane deviders cause there was no one there to watch him.

Range I frequent now has three if not more RO's covering the line.
 
This story can't be true because we all know that Glocks don't jam. :neener:

Just kidding. I'm afraid I would have been less than polite with someone who did that to me. Returning it to him without the barrel would have come to mind.
 
fix his problem, put the clip back in.. cock it and point it at him and say "lets see if it jams again shall we"?

he'll get the frickin idea..

btw, glocks jam

i got an early slide lock problem with my G27.. but only happened about 3 times out of 1000 rounds..
 
You should have backhanded him in the face. Grabbed his arm and twisted it behind his back and slammed him face down on the table.
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And then claimed self defense. ;)

Of course, I'm just kidding. The best action would probably be to calmly redirect the muzzle and then explain to the guy why his actions were unsafe (and I'd probably ask the RO to keep an eye on him as well).
 
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"Sure, I can help you guys, but first let's get that muzzle pointed in a safe direction and keep it that way! Safety is always the first rule with firearms."

You were presented with an excellent (although intially scary) teaching opportunity and you had three attentive students right there to guide down the proper path.

Yes, there were lessons to be taught here. But, it appears that some of the posters here think that one of those lessons should be how to be a jerk to the new and inexperienced shooter.
 
I understand your anger, and yes I would be angry too. Similar things have happened to me as well. In that situation I would have helped the guy out, but also let him know that he just pointed a gun at me which is in violation of the safety rules, and could easily lead to someone getting seriously hurt. I would not berate him, but would have been let him know in a friendly but firm manner. I wouldn't blame you for yelling at the guy, however.
 
Had the same thing happen to a group of us. A guy walks up with a Glock 23 slightly out of battery and asks what's up. Eek!

Being rude and physical is stupid. Be polite and help him. If he is a jerk, tell the RO or leave.

The armed society is polite because if you are a jerk, you might get shot.
 
I probably would have asked him to be careful where he points that thing and cleared it for him. I would also keep an eye on him and his son to see if I should leave the range.....it would be tempted to, not only clear the gun, but field strip it and hand it back to him in pieces. Chances are, if he doesn't know how to clear it, he sure doesn't know how to put his gun back together. :neener:
 
Several years ago my friends and I took a guy we knew from work to the range,he had never even held a pistol before and was very eager to learn.We taught him the safety rules,never point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot,etc.,etc. So comes the big day and there he is at the range standing in front of me holding my Super Blackhawk 44 magnum with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger and he remembers something he wants to say and he turns around with the gun pointing at my chest.My friend Ed (my GOOD friend Ed)very quickly and calmly put his index finger between the hammer and frame and I just moved out of the way,no theatrics, no shouting, just made him put the gun down and go sit down. I was very shaken But he (the shooter) was actually sick.In time he became a responsable and safe shooter and still (ten years later) apologizes for that mistake.It makes no differance I still introduce him as Sal, the guy who tried to kill me.
 
So comes the big day and there he is at the range standing in front of me holding my Super Blackhawk 44 magnum with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger and he remembers something he wants to say and he turns around with the gun pointing at my chest...
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And that, people, is why even if it sounds paranoid, you never ever ever get out of arm's reach from your new shooter. Stand at their strong-side elbow and pay attention!

pax
 
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I woulda drawn down!


Seriously, I would have made quite a display out of getting out of the muzzle's line of fire. Some choice words about gun saftey mixed in with some choice cuss words while I was doing it.
 
Question gt:

Where was this range? In and around Atlanta or one of the DNR ones north or south of the city?

Just curious...
 
It reminds me of basic training at Ft Dix .We were on the rifle range and went to prone when this kid sticks the muzzle in the sand and then turns it around toward him and proceeds to blow on it to get the sand out of it. Later in training same guy turns around with m16 and sweeps everyone behind the firing line because he had a jam.Drill sgt runs over and drop kicked him
 
To the question by jpthegeek, it was American Marksman on Peachtree Industrial..its actually a nice range. Ive never had any problems with them..Oh, and he did have his finger on the trigger, I guess thats how you carry a gun now days.Jammed and finger on the trigger..
 
We had a guy at basic sweep the line with an M9 and then proceed to point it at one of the range officers because he had a question. What followed was a long string of curse words and the kid being sent to the rear of the range to reload mags.
 
>but also let him know that he just pointed a gun at me which is in violation of the safety rules, and could easily lead to someone getting seriously hurt.<

Gee, but last time I checked, pointing a gun at somebody was actuallyu considered assualt with a deadly weapon, and could result in somebody getting a bad case of dead. While I won't make any claims about going into "ninja mode", I probably WOULD go into DI mode, and people in the next county WOULD know something was going on.

Polite lasts up to you doing something stupid that could kill me. Don't have much polite at that point...
 
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