Baikal double 45-70

[Oldman11]

Gun broker has a Baikal double 12 gauge with full length 45-70 inserts twenty inch’s long. I could take one insert out and have a black powder 12 ga and 45-70 to hunt deer with. I already have the blackpowder ammo and would like any comments you might. I called and talked to the owner,the shotgun is almost new with rifle sites,inserts are adjustable for sighting purpose. It would be the closest to a cape gun I would ever have. What do you think?

 

[OldFashioned]

They also made an actual 45-70 double rifle if what you want is the cape gun feel

 

[OldFashioned]

Also i believe they were made in 30-06

 

[WestKentucky]

Haven’t seen ‘06 but I have seen .308. (Was wrong, .308 is The o/u rifle. ‘06 was indeed the other SxS double)

And a 12 ga sleeved to .45 is going to be stinkin heavy. For me, I say pass on it. But I do have to admit I would love a double rifle.

 

[DM~]

Here's mine in 30-06,



DM

 

[midland man]

I would like one in 30-30 do they make that in a double rifle?

 

[DM~]

They do in a Chapuis...

DM

 

[OldFashioned]

I would like one in 30-30 do they make that in a double rifle?

Not that im aware of

 

[troy fairweather]

Gun broker has a Baikal double 12 gauge with full length 45-70 inserts twenty inch’s long. I could take one insert out and have a black powder 12 ga and 45-70 to hunt deer with. I already have the blackpowder ammo and would like any comments you might. I called and talked to the owner,the shotgun is almost new with rifle sites,inserts are adjustable for sighting purpose. It would be the closest to a cape gun I would ever have. What do you think?

i dont think so ones i have seen have some good size gap when closed u can see a person hen looking across the breach. it may work but i tink powder would fall out and may make erosion a problem.

 

[Risky buisness]

I sure do like the concept, but Im thinking that unless the insert was fluted or made in a manner that would cut the weight down some that you may be in the market for a gun bearer too.

 

[drobs]

Always wanted a Baikal 12 gauge side by side with the 45-70 inserts. Never got around to buying one.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Kinda confused...,
Discussion on a modern 12 gauge SxS which was also produced to shoot inserts that take a .45-70 breech loaded cartridge, which was once a black powder cartridge, (but we're not talking about using a black powder load for that cartridge so..., ) so it and the factory SxS .45-70 variation belong in the "black powder" section? Would that then include handi-rifles in .45-70, not to mention repro Winchester '73 rifles in .44-40? How about Henry rifles in .45 Colt?

LD

 

[drobs]

Kinda confused...,
Discussion on a modern 12 gauge SxS which was also produced to shoot inserts that take a .45-70 breech loaded cartridge, which was once a black powder cartridge, (but we're not talking about using a black powder load for that cartridge so..., ) so it and the factory SxS .45-70 variation belong in the "black powder" section? Would that then include handi-rifles in .45-70, not to mention repro Winchester '73 rifles in .44-40? How about Henry rifles in .45 Colt?

LD

Would the use of black powder 45-70 cartridges be acceptable discussion in this section?

 

[Loyalist Dave]

That's what I'm askin'. I'm not the moderator. What about when you convert a revolving caplock carbine to shoot .45 Colt?

LD

 

[Oldman11]

I am thinking on using blackpowder and thought this was the right forum,I’m sorry.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Dude, again I'm not a moderator, so I'm not telling you to stop. For example, the revolving .44 cabine based on the 1858 Remington is caplock, BUT it can be converted to shoot fixed ammo like a breech loader. YET, that ammo has to be at "black powder pressures" if it's loaded with smokeless powder, and so lots of folks use .45 Colt loaded with black powder or Pyrodex etc...., so where does that stuff go?

LD

 

[Ironhand54]

Gunsmith friend used to sleeve Steven's 311 doubles to 45-70. He always used 20 Gauge guns because the 12 gauge guns were too heavy . Regulating them was also a pain.

IronHand

 

[dickydalton]

Gun broker has a Baikal double 12 gauge with full length 45-70 inserts twenty inch’s long. I could take one insert out and have a black powder 12 ga and 45-70 to hunt deer with. I already have the blackpowder ammo and would like any comments you might. I called and talked to the owner,the shotgun is almost new with rifle sites,inserts are adjustable for sighting purpose. It would be the closest to a cape gun I would ever have. What do you think?

I have one called "Bounty Hunter II" with exposed hammers and it's fun.

 

[ThomasT]

I'm all for it. I have a Baikel 22/410 combo gun and its a well built firearm. I thought it was blued but found out it is a black chrome coating that apparently cannot be done in the U.S. because of our friends at the EPA. But it turned me on to the 410 shotgun round and I found out its a much better round than internet posters would like you to believe.

I don't know if this belongs in the BP section, the center fire rifle section or the shotgun section. That decision is above my pay grade.