Not to sound ignorant on the matter but have any of you seen the episode of cops where a black male was at a barbecue with his family and his brother pulled out his 25 caliber pistol and shot him. The 25 was potruding out the rear of his back but did no break the skin and this guy was fairly thick and it hit him in the upper chest so needless to say these results are fairly consistent to the actual preformance on an adult males upper torso.