Been thinking about a .350 Legend for both super and subs

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I have a situation where I can legally shoot deer on my property but I'm also in a rural subdivision (3-10 ac. lots) we have a ton of deer and it wouldn't do any harm to cull a few every year. So I've been looking at sub-sonic suppressed options (I have experience with neither) for head-shots inside of 30 yards, in order to keep the deer on my property.

Pretty handy with rebarreling Savage rifles (no longer "new" to Savages, you might say) and I'm thinking of barreling one of my actions in .350 Legend. Thinking it could pull double duty as a light recoiling gun for future grandkids (hopefully any time now) and I could load subs for yard work.

The factory Savage barrels are 1:16 twist and I've read they may not stabilize subs well, but I also don't anticipate needing those subs to be accurate beyond 20-30 yards tops.

Any thoughts?
 
Newtosavage said:
I have a situation where I can legally shoot deer on my property but I'm also in a rural subdivision (3-10 ac. lots) we have a ton of deer and it wouldn't do any harm to cull a few every year. So I've been looking at sub-sonic suppressed options (I have experience with neither) for head-shots inside of 30 yards, in order to keep the deer on my property.

Pretty handy with rebarreling Savage rifles (no longer "new" to Savages, you might say) and I'm thinking of barreling one of my actions in .350 Legend. Thinking it could pull double duty as a light recoiling gun for future grandkids (hopefully any time now) and I could load subs for yard work.

The factory Savage barrels are 1:16 twist and I've read they may not stabilize subs well, but I also don't anticipate needing those subs to be accurate beyond 20-30 yards tops.

Any thoughts?
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Maybe a crossbow would work better. Deer brains and heads are pretty small and living in a sub division with only 3-10 acre lots doesn't scream safe shooting zones to me. Check with your local game warden on distance from a house for hunting/shooting, acreage minimum for hunting and be sure your allowed to shoot nuisance deer. A lot of states give crop damage tags to people who lose crop money from their land. Its not just a free for all because they are eating rose bushes.

350L is a decent round but over hyped by many. A good SP or HP would be ideal use for deer. It's also low enough recoil for kids.
 
Axis II said:
Maybe a crossbow would work better. Deer brains and heads are pretty small and living in a sub division with only 3-10 acre lots doesn't scream safe shooting zones to me. Check with your local game warden on distance from a house for hunting/shooting, acreage minimum for hunting and be sure your allowed to shoot nuisance deer. A lot of states give crop damage tags to people who lose crop money from their land. Its not just a free for all because they are eating rose bushes.

350L is a decent round but over hyped by many. A good SP or HP would be ideal use for deer. It's also low enough recoil for kids.
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Nope. No crossbow. I need to anchor them. Made plenty of head shots on deer at and beyond 100 yards, so I'm well acquainted with the method.

I have plenty of safe directions to shoot, and I'll be shooting downward so there will be no chance the round could leave the property (which would be a violation). Already checked with the GW. A few of my neighbors just use their deer rifle, which I find a bit annoying and potentially dangerous. I'm not that guy.

Just mainly looking for info on sub-sonic use of the .350 Legend, especially suppressed. Thanks.
 
I use the 350 Legend for hunting deer but I hunt with supers it's a good round for hunting deer. I don't do head shots I do double lung/heart shots. They don't run far, this one ran about 25' leaving a 18" wide blood trail. I was using the Winchester Super X 350 Legend 180-Grain rounds.
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I have been thinking about one as well, a bit different reason I have a 9mm suppressor that's rated for 350 that's good enough right lol.
According to my streloc app 1 in 16 is plenty fast to stabilize the Winchester subsonic factory load.
 
mavracer said:
I have been thinking about one as well, a bit different reason I have a 9mm suppressor that's rated for 350 that's good enough right lol.
According to my streloc app 1 in 16 is plenty fast to stabilize the Winchester subsonic factory load.
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Good info. Thanks.
 
AK Hunter said:
I use the 350 Legend for hunting deer but I hunt with supers it's a good round for hunting deer. I don't do head shots I do double lung/heart shots. They don't run far, this one ran about 25' leaving a 18" wide blood trail. I was using the Winchester Super X 350 Legend 180-Grain rounds.
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I have no doubt that supersonic, it's a good hunting round for deer and pigs. I like big diameter bullets at reasonable speeds for killing stuff. My muzzleloader does a fine job with .44 cal pistol bullets, killing cleanly and with very little bloodshot meat. So if it worked out with the subs, I'd feel pretty good about handing it to someone with regular ammo for hunting elsewhere.
 
From the reviews I read on the 200gr maker rex bullets I got for my 300 Blackout they're pretty effective. I can't imagine a heavier bullet designed to be subsonic would be less effective.
 
My solution for my rural subdivision deer problem:

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CVA Scout in .44 Magnum. I use either the HMS Cowboy 200 grain or I load a 240 hard cast to just barely subsonic.

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Newtosavage said:
Another good option. I love those CVA single shots. But I'm thinking suppressed in addition to subs.
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In a bolt with the right can that'd be stupid quiet. Especially since you don't need to worry about cycling it so you could play with faster powder. I shoot 6.0 of Unique with 200gr Makers or 208 A Max in my 300 BO bolt it's Red Ryder quiet.
 
Newtosavage said:
Another good option. I love those CVA single shots. But I'm thinking suppressed in addition to subs.
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Yeah, most of the Scouts come with a threaded barrel but the .44 Magnum does not. So, I do intend to get it threaded, should not be a big deal to do so. I wish CVA had done it for me though. But I cannot afford any more suppressors, I am in process for one for my .22 fleet.

I have also used my Marlin 1895 SBL with .45-70 and 405 hard cast lead with Trail Boss powder for a subsonic load. The CVA Scout in .45-70 is threaded and would certainly blow the head off, for good or bad ;). They also have a 450BM and a .300AAC.

https://cva.com/product/scout-45-70-stainless-steel-with-black-stocks/

The .44 Mag or .45-70, both big, heavy bullets that shot downward as the OP suggests he does, will not ricochet nor carry far (unless fired upwards in which case 1,568 yards is about right ;) ).

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Well I've gone round and round and talked myself out of it, (for now lol). In my situation, the common 1 in 16" twist is a deal breaker, it limits subsonic bullets to the 250-255 range. As such the common bullets suitable for subs are 250-255. I already have both a bolt and a SBR 300 Blackout for subs that shoot up to 220gr.
Maybe if 1 in 10 barrels become common (read cheap lol) and bullets closer to 300gr are developed. Maybe I'll just get a Hybrid46 for the 450.
 
Newtosavage said:
Just mainly looking for info on sub-sonic use of the .350 Legend, especially suppressed. Thanks.
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You're the first person I'm aware of to ask a question that's reasonably answered by the .350L. Nicely done!

. . . but I still think there's nothing the .350LeJoke does that .300BO, .300HAM'R, or .45SOCOM don't do better, or cheaper, or both.
 
One note that I will add. I am fairly new to the world of subsonics and suppressors but from what I have experienced so far, if you want something with low ricochet potential then subs aren't it. Subsonics seam to bounce off everything and go flying. I've learned you have to be really careful with your backstop because they will bounce off dirt and trees and steel plates and you can hear them twirling off and hitting stuff in the distance. I think it would actually be safer to use a full power rifle with jacketed bullets because a jacketed hunting bullet at high velocity buries itself in the dirt or if it hits something hard it fragments. A suppressor with supersonic loads does cut the muzzle blast considerably.
 
someguy2800 said:
One note that I will add. I am fairly new to the world of subsonics and suppressors but from what I have experienced so far, if you want something with low ricochet potential then subs aren't it. Subsonics seam to bounce off everything and go flying. I've learned you have to be really careful with your backstop because they will bounce off dirt and trees and steel plates and you can hear them twirling off and hitting stuff in the distance. I think it would actually be safer to use a full power rifle with jacketed bullets because a jacketed hunting bullet at high velocity buries itself in the dirt or if it hits something hard it fragments. A suppressor with supersonic loads does cut the muzzle blast considerably.
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That is something worth considering. Thanks for that.

The more I learn about the .350 Legend, the more I like it. Not sure why. Just seems like a handy hunting tool to me. I shot a lot of feral pigs years ago with .357 Magnums and 38 +P in a revolver. The .357 Magnum was the lightest handgun that would kill a pig quickly of all the ones I tried. The .350 Legend should be even better. Reminds me of my 30-30 in some ways. Very practical for common game at common distances.
 
Newtosavage said:
The more I learn about the .350 Legend, the more I like it. Not sure why. Just seems like a handy hunting tool to me.
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It's got a lot of goldilocks going for it.
The old 30/30 and 35 Rem have been filling freezers with venison for over a century because they put enough power in a gun that can be lighter to carry without too much recoil. The 350 Legend very much puts this just right compromise in a MSR or nice mini bolt action.
 
mavracer said:
It's got a lot of goldilocks going for it.
The old 30/30 and 35 Rem have been filling freezers with venison for over a century because they put enough power in a gun that can be lighter to carry without too much recoil. The 350 Legend very much puts this just right compromise in a MSR or nice mini bolt action.
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In a Mini-action Howa with a threaded 16" barrel, it would be very appealing.
 
Now I went and done it. Perusing the net and seen Cabelas has Win 145 FMJ for 15.99, free shipping and I had some points to burn now I got 100 rounds to burn up as soon as I figure out how lol.
 
Newtosavage said:
Another good option. I love those CVA single shots. But I'm thinking suppressed in addition to subs.
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CVA also makes a Scout single shot in 444 Marlin caliber with a threaded barrel for its muzzle break. I recently purchased one. Fantastic caliber if you handload ammo.
 
Well JoeBobs had a Faxon 350 Barrel and their shipping dept is on the ball ordered Sunday night and it got here yesterday. Ammo should be here tomorrow. Message_1646833224633.jpg
 
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