Beretta 92 or CZ-75 - if you could have only one?

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I could never get the beretta to shoot accurately, it absolutely despised hardcast lead bullets which would keyhole and strike the target sideways after 20 rounds. I called Beretta, and they told me "NEVER SHOOT LEAD BULLETS IN A 92FS EVER. The rifling in the 92 is designed to shoot jacketed bullets ONLY"

It didnt shoot well with jacketed bullets either 10" patterns were the norm at 50 feet.

My CZ85 is very accurate and shoots either lead or jacketed right to point of aim.
I initially had the same accuracy problem with my newly-acquired 92FS. The 124 gr. TCJ handloads that would print sub-4" groups at 25 yards offhand on my 75B would, when fired in the 92FS, not group any less than 10" at the same distance, with some shots not even registering on the target!

I was actually seriously comtemplating selling off the 92FS when a colleague suggested I try shooting 115 gr. projectiles through it. So I loaded up a batch of 115 gr. TCJ handloads and shot them through the 92FS. Much to my pleasant surprise, the groups at the same distance shrank to under 4", very nearly rivalling my 75B in accuracy. Needless to say, the 92FS is still with me.

(That exercise revealed one minor problem with my 92FS, though: the shots were printing significantly high and slightly left. Replacing the fixed rear sight with an LPA adjustable rear sight addressed that problem.)
 
I dislike DA/SA semiauto pistols, and despite the fact that my opinion of CZ's pistols has cooled recently, I'd still take a CZ over a Beretta.

Doubly so if the only bullet weight it fired with any accuracy was the 115 gr rounds.
 
I own a CZ-75B and a 92FS and have for years.

I'd pick the CZ-75B over my 92FS by a wide wide margin.

It'd be like picking Ginger over Aunt Bea.:)

Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
I love my 75b, but I've never fired a beretta.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the grip is more similar to a desert eagle in .50AE than a 9mm.
 
Both are fine guns, but I give the quality marks to the Beretta. If I had to pick one it would be Beretta based on it's exemplary record.
 
CZ-75 any day the Beretta is an evolutionary design borrowing from earlier Beretta pistols along with a few features from Walther pistols (tilt breech and slide safety) it has had a few problems along the way.
Had the military not adopted it and gone with the Sig 226 many other people or agencies would not have adopted it as well.
The military later in limited numbers went with Sig's both the 228/M11 and 226 go figure?
The CZ-75 is more often copied design and has more calibers available in different variants of this design, Its problem in the begining was coming origianlly from a Warsaw Pact or Eastern Bloc country many derided it as an inferior weapon which it is not.
Col. Cooper used its design to try to get his Bren 10 on the shelves, many countries use one CZ-75 variant or another while not so many use the Beretta 92/96.
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.:D
I have large hands and for me the Beretta is not too big but for many people it is, with the CZ-75 this is not as big a problem.
Just my opinion its worth what was paid for it.:evil:
 
CZ. And I have experience with both. I don't own either at the moment but plan on rectifying that in the not-so-distant future. The Beretta is no slouch though.

I've never seen a Beretta shoot as well as a CZ but I have no experience with civilian Berettas.
 
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