Longbow
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Its odd, but considering the price difference between the two, I hear more locking block breakage on a Beretta 92's than a Taurus 92's. 
Beretta VS Taurus
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I hear more locking block breakage on a Beretta 92's than a Taurus 92's.
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Thats simply because there are more 92's in circulation than Taurus guns. The Military and several police forces use Beretta's. No one uses Taurus guns.
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Thats simply because there are more 92's in circulation than Taurus guns. The Military and several police forces use Beretta's. No one uses Taurus guns.
PAT
Lennyjoe
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denfoote, you still own a Taurus?
I have the PT92AF and have had no problems with it. I have a hard time hitting targets at any great length (35 yrds +) but that is probably my fault not the guns. I used my PT92 this weekend at an IPSC shoot and had a great time. CDNN investments has MecGar mags for nine dollars for the Taurus which work great. Got the gun for about $300. I've ordered four MecGars from CDNN.
Around here, you can find new Taurus 92s in the mid to high $500 range. For another $100 you could get the Beretta.
Beretta mags have a smaller catch on the magazines. File it larger and they work in a Taurus.
Only thing I'd like to do is put adjustable sights on the rear. MecGar makes a set I found in Brownell's catalog. Other than that, I really like this gun. Not as much as my Springfield 1911, but close.
Around here, you can find new Taurus 92s in the mid to high $500 range. For another $100 you could get the Beretta.
Beretta mags have a smaller catch on the magazines. File it larger and they work in a Taurus.
Only thing I'd like to do is put adjustable sights on the rear. MecGar makes a set I found in Brownell's catalog. Other than that, I really like this gun. Not as much as my Springfield 1911, but close.
George Hill
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CDNN investments has MecGar mags for nine dollars
At what capacity?
Adjustable Rears... THere is a shop here in town with a Tauri with an adjustible rear for 350.
Considering the comments here - that is a great deal.
At what capacity?
Adjustable Rears... THere is a shop here in town with a Tauri with an adjustible rear for 350.
Considering the comments here - that is a great deal.
Longbow
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I think I need to rephrase my statement.
I hear locking block breakage on Beretta's but not Taurus's. Not even once, I know its somewhat less accurate(I've shot both) than the Beretta, but locking block breakage, none!
I hear locking block breakage on Beretta's but not Taurus's. Not even once, I know its somewhat less accurate(I've shot both) than the Beretta, but locking block breakage, none!
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Handy
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Like I said earlier, Taurus locking blocks have been a prefered replacement for broken Berettas for quite awhile.
I'm sure some Taurus blocks have broken as well, that's just the way the gun is designed. But the Taurus blocks (until the recent Beretta upgrade, at least) seem to be stronger.
I'm sure some Taurus blocks have broken as well, that's just the way the gun is designed. But the Taurus blocks (until the recent Beretta upgrade, at least) seem to be stronger.
10-Ring
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I was never that happy w/ the Taurus semi auto I owned. Jammed frequently, had a heavy trigger & was not all that accurate. Total opposite of what my Berettas have been!
Go Beretta!
Go Beretta!
MaxSE PT99
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My PT 99!
Hi all!
I just recently found you fine folk's forum.....heheheh.
Anyway, if it's worth anything.....my PT99 is awesome. Had it about a month now, and the thing has yet to jam. I've shot probably 2000 rounds and not a single problem. I've shot reloads, factory ammo, and it goes bang evrey time the trigger is pulled!
My buddy has a Glock 19 and it would jam up on Federals' lead free Ballistaclean ammo. Not my little Bull. Now, I'm not gonna put down Glock, they make excellent guns. Heck I've even owned a G19 and a G26, but i prefer my SA guns better. Just makes me think.....my buddy paid 450 new for his Glock, and I paid 250, his Glock jams more than my "inferior" Taurus. Just food for thought.
Have another friend who has a Beretta 96. It's a nice looking gun, but I can't hit a barn with it. Now my Taurus can hit a coke can at 25 yards open sights, free-hand all day long, and I know it's the gun and not me.....i've owned a .45 and got excellent results. No flinch at all. Maybe i've just been lucky, but I'm glad I have if that's the case.
Well, I've probably wasted too much time already, so C YA!
Take care
Jon
Hi all!
I just recently found you fine folk's forum.....heheheh.
Anyway, if it's worth anything.....my PT99 is awesome. Had it about a month now, and the thing has yet to jam. I've shot probably 2000 rounds and not a single problem. I've shot reloads, factory ammo, and it goes bang evrey time the trigger is pulled!
My buddy has a Glock 19 and it would jam up on Federals' lead free Ballistaclean ammo. Not my little Bull. Now, I'm not gonna put down Glock, they make excellent guns. Heck I've even owned a G19 and a G26, but i prefer my SA guns better. Just makes me think.....my buddy paid 450 new for his Glock, and I paid 250, his Glock jams more than my "inferior" Taurus. Just food for thought.
Have another friend who has a Beretta 96. It's a nice looking gun, but I can't hit a barn with it. Now my Taurus can hit a coke can at 25 yards open sights, free-hand all day long, and I know it's the gun and not me.....i've owned a .45 and got excellent results. No flinch at all. Maybe i've just been lucky, but I'm glad I have if that's the case.
Well, I've probably wasted too much time already, so C YA!
Take care
Jon
SouthpawShootr
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Just from the curiosity point of view, I think you should get the Taurus. You already have a Beretta. You like what the Taurus has to offer. You will eventually decide you like the Beretta better. You'd probably be able to get the Taurus as slick as the Beretta, but then what you save would have evaporated away. I have both and am looking to get rid of neither.
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Handy
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A friend of mine is going through a police training course. He needed to buy a handgun, and only something that fits standard gear (CZ was out).
He wanted a Glock, but after seeing prices, went alternative shopping with me.
Off of our list, he picked up a new PT92. They fired 3000 rounds in training. He told me today that he didn't have a single malfunction, and that he was glad he didn't get the Glock, as he saw many failures and jams in his class.
Anequedotes are just that, but that's one guy who won't be bad mouthing Taurus or talking up Glock.
He wanted a Glock, but after seeing prices, went alternative shopping with me.
Off of our list, he picked up a new PT92. They fired 3000 rounds in training. He told me today that he didn't have a single malfunction, and that he was glad he didn't get the Glock, as he saw many failures and jams in his class.
Anequedotes are just that, but that's one guy who won't be bad mouthing Taurus or talking up Glock.
SouthpawShootr
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This design is inherently reliable. About the only ways you can muck it up is: a- aftermarket mags b- wear and tear on parts (lack of maintenance) c- bad or low quality ammo.
I've had one beretta and 2 Tauri. None has ever jammed. Still have the Beretta and a PT92.
I've had one beretta and 2 Tauri. None has ever jammed. Still have the Beretta and a PT92.
Big Mike
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George,
I had the PT92 for @ a year or so. I shot close to 1500 rounds through it. No problems at all. It was all blue.
The only reason I sold it is a fellow college buddy/shooter didn't have any "hi-cap" pistols right after the AWB in '94. He made me a deal of $400 and I couldn't pass it up. And at the time I had lots of hi-cap pistols.
I now own a Beretta Brigadier 92FS and wouldn't hesitate to purchase a Taurus PT series pistol. I really like the heavy slide on my Beretta. If it wasn't available, I would seriously consider the Taurus again.
Hope this helps. Mike
I had the PT92 for @ a year or so. I shot close to 1500 rounds through it. No problems at all. It was all blue.
The only reason I sold it is a fellow college buddy/shooter didn't have any "hi-cap" pistols right after the AWB in '94. He made me a deal of $400 and I couldn't pass it up. And at the time I had lots of hi-cap pistols.
I now own a Beretta Brigadier 92FS and wouldn't hesitate to purchase a Taurus PT series pistol. I really like the heavy slide on my Beretta. If it wasn't available, I would seriously consider the Taurus again.
Hope this helps. Mike
My vote goes to the Beretta
The price diff isn't as great as it used to be plus the resale potential more than makes up for it. Although I like the safety setup of the Taurus better than the Beretta's, I would still pay a little more and get the Beretta and get used to the weird safety system.
Something I may have missed while scanning these posts... are mags compatable between the two guns?
How about a new CZ 75-B instead of either gun used?
Pico
The price diff isn't as great as it used to be plus the resale potential more than makes up for it. Although I like the safety setup of the Taurus better than the Beretta's, I would still pay a little more and get the Beretta and get used to the weird safety system.
Something I may have missed while scanning these posts... are mags compatable between the two guns?
How about a new CZ 75-B instead of either gun used?
Pico
igor
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I've had two 99's, the first one was a blued AF and the current one is a blued AFD with the decocker. Uncle Mike's neoprene grips, a polished feed ramp and a very moderate trigger job put a little bump to the price of it ten years ago. Not the most ergonomic tool, but it sure has taught me to shoot.
Reliability has been perfect, accuracy on par with shooter and functionality very good. I chose the Tauri both times in comparison with the Beretta and just didn't want the slide-mounted safety.
A word of warning that I've posted before though: stay away from the 99 because the rear sight is a disaster! Get the 92 instead. Aftermarket sights are a better option than the poor, "pasted-on" Brazilian experience.
The rear sight's tubular pin that holds the front portion in place will shake loose or to bits. Everything about the sight is pretty roughly made. My rear sight is now fixed in place with a joint screw right through the top front portion down into the slide. Will hold now, didn't before. All adjustment screws have to be fixed with Lok-Tite or I'll lose zero in a mag's time.
The gunsmith said that drilling and tapping the hole in the slide was like working on cheese. The materials definitely aren't Beretta quality, never mind the tooling. Not that this had affected the durability or accuracy of the gun that much - I'm getting close to the 20.000 mark now and the gun rattles no more than when new and will group five rounds in 6 cm's from 25 meters if I do my part.
My next handgun will be a Walther P99QA. And yes, I mean the German original...
Reliability has been perfect, accuracy on par with shooter and functionality very good. I chose the Tauri both times in comparison with the Beretta and just didn't want the slide-mounted safety.
A word of warning that I've posted before though: stay away from the 99 because the rear sight is a disaster! Get the 92 instead. Aftermarket sights are a better option than the poor, "pasted-on" Brazilian experience.
The rear sight's tubular pin that holds the front portion in place will shake loose or to bits. Everything about the sight is pretty roughly made. My rear sight is now fixed in place with a joint screw right through the top front portion down into the slide. Will hold now, didn't before. All adjustment screws have to be fixed with Lok-Tite or I'll lose zero in a mag's time.
The gunsmith said that drilling and tapping the hole in the slide was like working on cheese. The materials definitely aren't Beretta quality, never mind the tooling. Not that this had affected the durability or accuracy of the gun that much - I'm getting close to the 20.000 mark now and the gun rattles no more than when new and will group five rounds in 6 cm's from 25 meters if I do my part.
My next handgun will be a Walther P99QA. And yes, I mean the German original...
I've got a PT-92AF I bought new for $325 dollars with a couple hi-caps back around 95-96 (leftover from before AWB I guess).
I have put right at about 1200 rnds through it. Really just started shooting it alot recently, bought a 1000rnd case of cheapass Wolf 9mm and ran it through there this last year. Not one single failure to fire or jam of anykind, with what some would label the crappiest ammo available. I have no complaints with the gun... Seems like a nice well made gun to me. I have however noticed that the Berettas I've handled did cycle a little more smoothly. I have no doubt they have a better fit and finish but as long as it works I frankly don't care about that crap...
I have put right at about 1200 rnds through it. Really just started shooting it alot recently, bought a 1000rnd case of cheapass Wolf 9mm and ran it through there this last year. Not one single failure to fire or jam of anykind, with what some would label the crappiest ammo available. I have no complaints with the gun... Seems like a nice well made gun to me. I have however noticed that the Berettas I've handled did cycle a little more smoothly. I have no doubt they have a better fit and finish but as long as it works I frankly don't care about that crap...
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