I purchased a box of Berry's 185gn 45 ACP Hybrid HPs(Beta) a while back as they were touted to be worthy of being usable for self defense. They supposedly will do a good job of expanding vs their other HPs that are for target use only. I will have a bit of me-time coming up and want to check how well these will work. I have AA-2, AA-5, Win 231/38, Unique, IMR 700x, Blue Dot and Power pistol. Anybody tried these bullets yet with any of these powders. I can find no loads for these exact bullets. The Accurate tables have Berry's 185 gn FPs HBRNs & SWCs and Ranier's 185 gn HPs. The latest Hornady manual has no plated bullet info but lumps their 185 gn jacketed SWC and HP XTPs in the same load table as do several load manuals. I'd like a starting point vs shooting in the dark (no pun intended). I would like to work up to a good self defense expanding load. Any suggestions?