I have the 360PD. I load it with Fioochi 148 grain JHP that go 1131 fps out of that gun.
I could also use .38 Plus P by Buffalobore, 1040 fps, 158 grain LHP, and the recoil is the limit I can shoot decently out of the gun. I have big hands, and pocket carry grips have to be small. I find at 7 yards I can hit center of mass, but, no head shots consistently.
Anything over that level is unshootable. I did the recoil numbers, using buffalobores
loads:
360PD recoil figures:
180 gr. L.F.N. -G.C. (1,400fps/M.E. 783 ft. lbs.)
Recoil Energy of 41 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 60 fps.
158 gr. J.H.C. (1,475fps/M.E. 763 ft. lbs.)
Recoil Energy of 37 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 57 fps.
125 gr. J.H.C. (1,700fps/M.E. 802 ft. lbs.)
Recoil Energy of 35 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 55 fps.
Anytime the recoil velocity goes over 35 fps, your entering a wrenching, horrible recoil
area, that hurts a LOT.
I shot ONE round each of the first two loads, and never again.
The recoil of the 148's is:
148’s @ 1131 fps
Recoil Energy of 13 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 29 fps.
The problem with the scandiums is that light weight, while making the gun a REAL pocket carry BUG, also allows it to reach recoil velocity that other guns only dream of.
Also, keep in mind, I calculated these figures with a fully loaded gun. IIRC, my Scandium weighs 12 oz, unloaded.
That effects recoil considerably.
The Fioochi 148’s @ 1131 fps
Recoil Energy of 13 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 29 fps.
With the last shot, and a near empty gun, it weighs 12 oz. This changes the recoil to Recoil Energy of 16 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 38 fps.
That last recoil velocity figure shows how much of a difference, nearly 25% in recoil speed, gun weight makes with very light guns.
Stepping up the the Model 60, and you cut the velocity speed in half, and, it can take far heavier loads, and recoil velocity stays at a bearable rate. It also weighs easy twice what the 360PD does.
At BUG ranges, I figure the .357 has some advantages and disadvantages over the .38.
I shoot reasonably well Flat point, 130 grain @ 950 fps .38's. They recoil at:
Recoil Energy of 7 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 21 fps.
That's about the only .38 load I'd like to carry, since any of the HP loads are really marginal on penetration, except Buffalobores 158 grain, 1040 fps heavy 38 load, and, that recoils the exact same as the Fioochi 357 mag ammo.
Hope this helps.
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