Best all reason all season semiauto

[Tilos]

I've been interested in a DAO for a while but not a lot of current production options.

What model(s) fit the bill here?

Good question.
Any Kahr but with the caveat of not have having a hammer to thumb during re-holstering or 2nd strike capable.

And most SCCYs (Keltec P11 clones) but with a long/heavy (9#) trigger and a hammer that's barely thumb-able.
There are aftermarket trigger parts/springs for the SCCYs to remedy that, and the guns are so cheap ($169), trigger parts are a viable option.
The SCCY trigger is the most DA revolver-like I have experienced, and I consider that a plus. (for safety and simplicity of operation.).

I also consider the HKs with the Lem trigger to fall into this category but do not have all the characteristics described.
And I'm not a fan of the mag release lever but training could remedy that.

The M&P Sheild Plus has DAO listed in its specs. but I don't believe it is in the traditional sense and have never handled one yet to confirm.
From the review vids I have watched, it looks to be simply a long/light take-up.

So, no safety lever, no de-cocking lever, and a longer trigger travel for simple/safe operation.

Yeh, not a lot of options in the current sea of Glock clones on the market.
I'm sure there are others, please post any that I may have missed.
jmo,
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Edit: I left out the Sig P250, I mentioned it before, and is at the top of my list, but only available as "used".

 

[jmr40]

I'll vote for my modified G19. Frame cut to G26 length for easier concealment than a G19 or G17. Barrel length is less important for concealment, and it splits the difference between G26 and G17. Keeping the slightly longer barrel also means it has a rail for a light or laser which isn't an option on a G26.

Accepts all double stack Glock magazines. This one has become my go-to pistol for everything but extreme concealment where a G43 or Sig 365 is better.

This isn't hard to do. It took me about an hour with a Dremel to cut down the grip and grind off finger grooves. I used a soldering iron to stipple the front strap and that took longer than anything else.

 

[Hookeye]

If i had to go with one and done, itd be midsize.
HK VP9

 

[SDGlock23]

I'd pick something in .40, like a G27 or G23. I like the .45 and 10mm but their larger size and weight are a disadvantage for carry and personally, I don't think the .40 gives up anything to them in terms of down range performance. I like 9mm too, but for "all season", I'd want something bigger.

 

[Riomouse911]

Makes me think of this spurless hammer Beretta at a local shop.

https://www.collectorsfirearms.com/products/193215-wilson-combat-beretta-92d-pistol-9mm-pr66249.html

Cool. I have one of those DAO Model 96 Centurions in .40 S&W.


(Bottom. The gun on top is an Egyptian Helwan.)

I wouldn’t use it as a do-all/go-anywhere gun myself. For that I think it’s either my CZ75 SP-01 or my Glock 48.

Stay safe.

 

[actionexpress]

For me.. For fun at the range, ease of concealment, and great for home defense and if I was only allowed one..

 

[DDDWho]

I like this Kimber Aegis Elite Ultra 9MM Officer 1911. Easy to pack and most accurate.

 

[md7]

Glock 19 with the G26 as a near second choice.

 

[JR24]

Glock 19

Agree. For me, I can conceal one under a T-shirt and no matter what I try to carry, I always end up back with a 19 on my hip.

 

[Charlie98]

'All reason' tells me concealment might be a factor, winter or summer... that being the case, I'll stick with my current carry piece, a Kahr CW9.

If concealment isn't a consideration, I'd just have to go with my alloy Kimber ProCarry in .45ACP.

ProCarry (not a II...) front R...

 

[JDGray]

I watched a youtube video where they ran the pistols in the water, mud, then dry iced them. The S&W M&P performed the best! That was 1 test...

 

[tws3b2]

Don't accept reasons and must work all seasons. Guess that's why I carry a 642.

 

[bnolsen]

My take is that the best all arounder pistol needs to balance comfort of shooting and comfort of conceal carry.

I'll personally take the shield plus for this category. Small enough to carry but large enough to shoot comfortably and is accurate for its size. The girls in my family pretty much all agree on that.

For me my favorite gun for general IWB carry was a usp 40c lem. Unfortunately I never have fully figured out the trigger. I need to give it (and the 9mm p2000 lem) another shot with some techniques that helped me finally figure out how to be accurate with my colt series 80 1911a1. I have a p07 which I love shooting but it just doesn't carry as well as the usp compact.

 

[Armored farmer]

For me.. For fun at the range, ease of concealment, and great for home defense and if I was only allowed one..

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Just what is that bad boy?
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[GRIZ22]

Glock 19.

I've read there are guides that carry a Glock 9mm with fmj for bears.

 

[bnolsen]

Don't accept reasons and must work all seasons. Guess that's why I carry a 642.

Yeah, sorry, no. Semi autos worst case you get one shot off. With revolvers something as simple as pocket lint can make it so that you never even get a single shot off.

 

[BlackHand1917]

Glocks are fine. Qualified annually with the Glock 23 during half my 13 years in Corrections. I never owned one, but might consider one in .357 Sig.

 

[JN01]

As you can probably guess by my avatar, I agree with the OP.

 

[Wildbillz]

My first choice would be a Glock 19. If I wanted to carry it in a pocket I would have to go with a Sig 365. In fact the Sig might make a best all around pick. So ya the Sig.

WB

 

[StrykerByte.45]

My vote is for the Glock 26.
Though I don't have the pants with large enough pockets to pocket carry it many claim to do so. It will accept any double stack 9 millimeter magazine in the Glock family. Small enough and light enough to carry inside the waistband or outside the waistband. It's in a caliber that is largely supported by the military and police and can function in all seasons in all capacities. It is simple to operate and recoil shy friendly. Plenty of aftermarket support as well as oem parts out there. Ammunition is readily available and not very costly. None of this has to do with tradition or sentiment or emotional attachment....
Well that's just my part of it, what say you on this gun or your choice?

I think you're right. The design is very versatile. My EDC is the G30S. For similar reasons. But I also find it good for a woods carry as well as for CCW. If you pay attention to some of the newer guns coming out this year, many of them are going for a similar design. The full length grips seem to be getting very popular for a while, but only for a while, after the fad people are realizing that a shorter grip is easier to conceal and a double stack reduces felt recoil. With the popularity of compensators growing people are also realizing that subcompacts are best for them because the extra length merely makes them almost a full length slide, which is easier to conceal and further reduces recoil.
Try a DPM System guide rod, you will be glad you did.

 

[Rexster]

My vote is for the Glock 26.
Though I don't have the pants with large enough pockets to pocket carry it many claim to do so. It will accept any double stack 9 millimeter magazine in the Glock family. Small enough and light enough to carry inside the waistband or outside the waistband. It's in a caliber that is largely supported by the military and police and can function in all seasons in all capacities. It is simple to operate and recoil shy friendly. Plenty of aftermarket support as well as oem parts out there. Ammunition is readily available and not very costly. None of this has to do with tradition or sentiment or emotional attachment....
Well that's just my part of it, what say you on this gun or your choice?

You chose well, and supported your choice with well-stated reasons.

For my personal use case, the G26 certainly checks the “all season” box, but, I think its big brother, the G17, is a better “all reason” choice. Among other things, my right hand has aged-out of shooting compact nines; a G17 is simply more “orthopedic.” I cannot fire many training shots right-handed, with a G26. Plus, a G17 has a rail that accommodates a Surefire X300-series light. The X300-series light not only provides illumination, its weight further damps recoil.

I still like my 1911 pistols. I simply realize that a Glock G17 works as well, for the task of general defensive pistol, and, none of my 1911 pistols has an accessory rail, for a light. I do not normally carry a pistol, with a light mounted upon it, but I like that option for the home defense role, and some other specialized applications. An “all reason” pistol covers the “all” part better, if it has an accessory rail. Notably, I would rather keep my 1911 pistols away from salt water, so, living near the coast, a Glock is a desirable weapon for some of my/our activities in some local environments.

I might never have owned or used Glocks, on my own, but, for some time during my life, Glocks were authorized duty pistol choices, the G22 from 2002 to 2004, and the G17 from 2015 to 2018. (I used a .40 SIG P229* duty pistol, during the interim, but trained with “sim” Glocks, from time to time, all along.) Having invested much training time, and invested in much training ammo, to develop familiarity with a weapon system, it seemed reasonable to keep using Glocks after I retired, in 2018. Purely practical.

*I aged-out of wanting to shoot any more .40 S&W ammo through my high-bore-axis P229, so, switched to a 9mm G17 as soon as my chief OK’ed 9mm to be an alternative duty cartridge, in 2015.

 

[KevininPa]

I like my M&P Shield EZ in 9mm. It's a Performance Center. Lightweight, but still manageable. Easily covered in summer due to slim, single stack grip. I can actually carry it in some of my winter coat pockets. But I tend to wear longish coats with deep pockets in the winter. Love the EZ rack system, even though I don't need it yet. Funny thing is, only got interested in this pistol for a friend of mine with a degenerative nerve disease. He couldn't handle or take down his Glock anymore. So the clerk at one of our favorite funshops showed him the takedown process and such. He could handle it. I expressed an interest due to the lighter weight. Mentioned that I carried an Astra A70. The one younger clerk looked at me and said "holy sh*t! There's folks that collect those!". So I bought an EZ. At least if this ends up in a police locker, it's all stainless and polymer. Am I collecting the A70? No. My kid needed a good reliable carry gun. So it got passed on. At least it's hard chromed. So if it ends up in a locker, it'll hold up longer. He's a single father raising two daughters. He doesnt have the cash for the cool stuff, so.........

 

[tarosean]

My vote is for the Glock 26.
Though I don't have the pants with large enough pockets to pocket carry it many claim to do so

Yuck.. 26 is the worst size they make IMO.

As for pants try 511’s. That is a HK MK23 in my pocket. A 26 sized gun would easily slip in.

*Gulf Coast resident so "seasons" do not really exist for us. So "ALL seasons" would be my normal EDC

 

[MikeInOr]

My vote is for the Glock 26.
Though I don't have the pants with large enough pockets to pocket carry it many claim to do so. It will accept any double stack 9 millimeter magazine in the Glock family. Small enough and light enough to carry inside the waistband or outside the waistband. It's in a caliber that is largely supported by the military and police and can function in all seasons in all capacities. It is simple to operate and recoil shy friendly. Plenty of aftermarket support as well as oem parts out there. Ammunition is readily available and not very costly. None of this has to do with tradition or sentiment or emotional attachment....
Well that's just my part of it, what say you on this gun or your choice?

I would choose a Hellcat or P365 over a Glock 26 just for a more compact easier to conceal sized pistol in 9mm. For a Glock 26 sized gun I chose a Glock 27 to get harder hitting 40 S&W rounds for the same size and weight pistol. For cheap practice I have a 9mm Glock 27 conversion barrel which has never miss fed.

My theory is it is the first round that counts most so I want the heaviest hitting round for a particular sized gun. I don't really notice a difference between shooting 40 S&W vs 9mm out of my Glock 27. With practice they are both easily controllable out of my Glock 27, for me at least.

My most carried gun is a DB9. It fits in my pockets and draws much easier than my CM9. My CM9 is pretty much a waste for me, I should have purchased a CM40/PM40 instead.

 

[JERRY]

Yuck.. 26 is the worst size they make IMO.

As for pants try 511’s. That is a HK MK23 in my pocket. A 26 sized gun would easily slip in.

*Gulf Coast resident so "seasons" do not really exist for us. So "ALL seasons" would be my normal EDC

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I can't wear a tactical pants all the time. Sometimes I gotta look like a regular guy not like a range safety officer.