Best ammo for mouse guns.22LR .22MAG .25ACP, .32ACP and .380

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Didn't the Israeli Mossad assassins carry Beretta 70s Jaguars with .22LR? Seems like shot placement would be key.

So has just about every other agency doing such work. Yes, a .22 LR to the back of the head from 3 feet out of a supressed pistol will certainly put someone down.

In a defensive situation, headshots are gonna be very difficult, and hitting that magical little ping-pong ball sized medulla that the assasins drill is next to impossible from the front with a low powered cartridge like the .22 LR, especially in a dynamic SD situation.
 
I'm planning on trying out the Hornady Critical Defense for my LCP, once I get enough rounds downrange to be sure it feeds well.
 
So has just about every other agency doing such work. Yes, a .22 LR to the back of the head from 3 feet out of a supressed pistol will certainly put someone down.

In a defensive situation, headshots are gonna be very difficult, and hitting that magical little ping-pong ball sized medulla that the assasins drill is next to impossible from the front with a low powered cartridge like the .22 LR, especially in a dynamic SD situation.
I have heard in certain situations the .22 LR was the caliber of choice by assasins at close range.
 
Didn't the Israeli Mossad assassins carry Beretta 70s Jaguars with .22LR? Seems like shot placement would be key. I use CCI stingers in my Cheetah 87.

BTW, as a side note, my new FN 5.7x28 is barely bigger than my .22 rounds but it generates almost 2200fps at the muzzle of my handgun, not the carbine. Twenty and thirty round mags are the norm -yooza, starting to be my new favorite toy.

I've got a bunch of little Beretta Jetfires hidden around the house in .25acp for those home invasion situations where I wouldn't have the chance to grab the .45acp or the 12 gauge. Fiochi works like a charm with these guns.

My Seecamp LWS32 travels with me outside the home in my pocket. Hope I never use it, but should the opportunity arise, I have no doubt it will do the job. Speer Gold Dots, Silvertips, and Corbon XTPs all work awesome in this gun.

As for the inevitable zombie attack? Got a couple LWRCs waiting for those guys. 5.56 for most of them, 6.8 spc for the fat guys. (And don't forget about that FN!)
Zombie attack yes the worst nightmare scenario case. You better have tons of ammo to shoot em down.
 
I just chronoed 35 grain Gold Dot .251" JHP's over 1.9 grains of Bullseye, consistently over 1100 FPS, 1145 FPS average. They didn't open at all going through a 1 lb coffee can filled with water, whatever that means, it's only 6" across. I sure as heck wouldn't want to be shot with that.
But as I said, I carry a .380.
 
22lr is a versatile round, but IMO it's best suited for point blank due to it's very low energy level as well as small wound channel...this would make it best to use very close where the odds of getting the lead to go where you intend is at it's best. Especially when we're talking about NAA mini-revolvers....they may hit decently out to 15yds, but I wouldn't consider relying on them at that distance due to the VERY short sight distance and the problems that will bring.

Anything can be an effective defensive round if used in a manner that they would excel in.

The thing to keep in mind with .22lr/mag is it's a rifle round in a pistol, thus massive losses in pressure due to not having enough barrel for the powder to burn completely.
 
22lr is a versatile round, but IMO it's best suited for point blank due to it's very low energy level as well as small wound channel...this would make it best to use very close where the odds of getting the lead to go where you intend is at it's best. Especially when we're talking about NAA mini-revolvers....they may hit decently out to 15yds, but I wouldn't consider relying on them at that distance due to the VERY short sight distance and the problems that will bring.

Anything can be an effective defensive round if used in a manner that they would excel in.

The thing to keep in mind with .22lr/mag is it's a rifle round in a pistol, thus massive losses in pressure due to not having enough barrel for the powder to burn completely.
Does alot more damage than pepper spray.
 
I just chronoed 35 grain Gold Dot .251" JHP's over 1.9 grains of Bullseye, consistently over 1100 FPS, 1145 FPS average. They didn't open at all going through a 1 lb coffee can filled with water, whatever that means, it's only 6" across. I sure as heck wouldn't want to be shot with that.
But as I said, I carry a .380.
Is the the Gold Dot Hollow Point in .25 ACP?
 
I don't think I would carry a .22 lr. or a 25acp on purpose, if I needed to rely on it to protect me, but they can be used for protection if that's all you have.
I see no problem with the .32 acp or the .380acp, or even the 9x18. The .22 magnum is ok I guess. The only probelm is you need a lot of barrel length to be effective.

At least small calibers are allowed to be discussed on this forum. I used to belong to the concealed carry forum, and I wrote something about small caliber weapons that the moderator did not agree with. My post lasted about 5 min. before it disapeared.
Said he would not tolerate any mention of "mouse guns" on that forum.

Oh well.
 
I don't think I would carry a .22 lr. or a 25acp on purpose, if I needed to rely on it to protect me, but they can be used for protection if that's all you have.
I see no problem with the .32 acp or the .380acp, or even the 9x18. The .22 magnum is ok I guess. The only probelm is you need a lot of barrel length to be effective.

At least small calibers are allowed to be discussed on this forum. I used to belong to the concealed carry forum, and I wrote something about small caliber weapons that the moderator did not agree with. My post lasted about 5 min. before it disapeared.
Said he would not tolerate any mention of "mouse guns" on that forum.

Oh well.
These guns are easily concealed.
 
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