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Best AR Trigger?

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by Mauser lover, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Mauser lover

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    Hope this is the right forum. I've been here for a while, but I always have that second-guessing tendency when posting threads...

    Beyond the clickbait title... I'm looking specifically for Steel Challenge. I want a fast trigger. I know there was a thread a while back on AR triggers and the Larue Tactical MBT seemed like the winner from that thread. I was drooling over that one for a while, and because I like to procrastinate (and because nobody I asked at the match used a Larue MBT), I'm going to ask more specifically for my competition before I just slap my money down and get something.

    So... what competition do you shoot, and what trigger do you use? If you shoot 3-gun, I'm sure your opinion is just as valuable as someone who shoots Steel Challenge, but I want to know what you shoot because I want to factor that into my processing. Also, please let me know why you like (or don't) the one you have.

    Anyway, what do ya'll use, what do you use it for, and why do you like it (or not).

    Thanks for the help in wading through the ever-deepening tide of AR triggers!
     
  2. ATLDave

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    Many of the good AR triggers won't stand up to the beating of a blowback AR. Since you're talking Steel Challenge, I assume you're talking about a blowback pistol caliber carbine. What people use in their rifle-caliber AR's isn't really relevant.

    At least near me, the Hyperfire triggers are the overwhelming choice for the PCC guys who are even remotely serious.
     
  3. Mauser lover

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    Aha! I hadn't even thought of that! I'm glad you did!
    Yes, the guys at my club are singing the praises of the Hyperfire triggers. Which one do you use?

    Please make sure you let me know if you are running blowback ARs or not. Thanks for that catch!
     
  4. ATLDave

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    Oh, I use pistols at handgun matches! :p

    But I do talk gear with some very committed PCC folks regularly. In the early days of PCC, they were breaking all kinds of triggers that are great in locked-bolt AR's... the Hyperfire was really seen as "the solution" once they found it. I don't know which specific model my friends are using these days... but most of them seem to like the ones with shoes on the triggers. HPTC maybe? I'll ask and report back.

    ETA: One of them say he uses a Hiperfire "24C" .
     
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  5. Hoser

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    For steel challenge stuff I prefer single stage triggers.

    Elftman makes a solid choice.

    Everything else I much prefer a 2-stage trigger. LaRue and Geissele win, but reports on the TriggerTech are really good. I have yet to feel one.
     
  6. Mauser lover

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    What else do you shoot? 3-gun or anything? What else do you use a 2-stage for? I'm leaning toward a really light single stage for steel challenge and something a little more reasonable (LaRue MBT?) for 3-gun; but still undecided on single or two-stage for 3-gun.
     
  7. Chuck R.

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    I use a Geiselle SSA-E in my Colt AR6951 mostly because I have 3 other ARs, including my 3Gun rig with the SSA-E. I use the 6951 for IDPA occasionally and general AR15 "practice" as i can shoot my steel with it and not damage the plates.

    No issues with my later model 6951 which features the ramped bolt.

    I like a two stage for the distance targets and don't really find it a handicap on the close in TGTs as long as it has a short reset which the SSA-Es do.
     
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    Yep those shots that seem long for me with an iron sighted pistol are a bit easier for the guys with carbines and a dot.
    If they want to use rifles they should have to use 5 round "hunting" mags:evil::)
     
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  9. ATLDave

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    Certainly a dot and a buttstock make for some very low-stress shooting. Even a dot on a handgun drastically shifts (for me and most others) what constitutes a “hard” shot at match speed. With my open gun, I’m basically never worried about whether I will be able to make a particular shot. With my limited gun, there are some shots I’m worried about from walkthrough to show clear.
     
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  10. Mauser lover

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    I've tried a dot, but the thing shakes too much for me so far. I'll be practicing to move from rimfire pistol iron to optics, but it ain't happening soon...

    It's just that the PCC guys come in at the top of the overall list, and I'm having difficulty getting to the top of my division list!
     
  11. ATLDave

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    This ain't bullseye. The sights, whether iron or optical, are supposed to be in some kind of motion most of the time.
     
  12. Chuck R.

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    Our 1st couple club matches we did a variation by limiting the PCC guys to 10+1 at the start and regular 10 rders for reloads. It did even things up a little. We now run an additional PCC only match in those months with a 5th Tuesday.
     
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    I usually only use five shots per string for steel challenge. Don't know about you, but...

    :p
     
  14. Pete D.

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    Even in Bullseye....the dot always moves. Show me a person who can hold a sight dead still and I'll show you someone made of stone.

    I replaced my Colt trigger with an Elftman....very satisfied.
     
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  15. Mauser lover

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    What type of rifle? Blowback or locked breech? And what do you shoot? 3-gun, bullseye, steel challenge?
     
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    Geiselle!
     
  17. Mauser lover

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    Which one, and what for? I need that info, or the answer is vain.
     
  18. BigSteve57

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    I have 3 Geissele triggers and I'm thrilled with all of them.
    All are very well made and very smooth & crisp.
    • SSA: Sig 516. For hunting, SHTF/zombie scenarios and competition
      • Fixed 2 stage 4.5 pound pull is service rifle legal
      • Sturdy
      • It replaced the stock SIG factory trigger which was the worst trigger I have ever experienced on a high quality AR.
        • My 1944 Springfield M1 Garand has a better trigger than that original SIG trigger.
    • SSA-E: LWRC REPR Sniper Model - For general sniping.
      • Fixed 2 stage, lighter trigger pull than the SSA.
      • Came stock from LWRC
    • High Speed National Match: used in my AR-15 lower for service rifle competition I use with various uppers
      • Both stages adjustable, very fast.
    I'll replace the triggers in my other rifles with Geissele triggers as time, $, and inclination dictate.
     
  19. Pete D.

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    The trigger went into a Colt AR match target Hbar. Service rifle match.
     
  20. Mauser lover

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    Thanks. I think I'm set on a Hiperfire, just hoping that black friday will have some killer deals on one...
     
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