mp as seen in this thread ) I have no real complaints against the Hornaday TAP but am always open to something better. I know a lot of guys, including Michael Bane swear by Hornday DPX I have never tried that. The idea of the Pow-R Ball seems like a great idea but I have heard pretty bad things about those as well. So here are my requirements and any suggestions are welcome. 1. Reliable feeding 2. JHP (although I might be interested to test out the idea of an expanding full metal jacket) 3. Good penetration 4. at least some what reasonably priced (in general I consider $1/rnd or less reasonable for carry ammo) While I hate to ever put a "price" on my safety I like to be able to buy a few boxes of any new ammo so I can confirm that it feeds and shoots alright before I actually make the switch.