Best SURVIVAL rifle
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sappyg
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a 22 LR solves a lot pf problems. I would choose a 10/22 but, i could just as easily pick a Marlin model 60.
berettaprofessor
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So's a tube...one piece to bend or break the rod (or lose it).
It depends on where you are, and what your imagined suvival situation is. Some places, small game is practical, other places, larger game is more likely of a resource. Any centerfire rifle can do fine for small game with light loads that any handloader can easily cook up, giving 22 like performance and noise levels.
I'm a believer in target quality guns, not the cheapest, smallest, lightest so-called "survival" gun. A target grade 22 pistol coupled with a centerfire rifle covers about all the bases nicely. A lever in 30-30 cal, or a scoped bolt gun in 30-06 will deal with realistic hunting needs, large or small, for as long as you'd care to be out. Either with light loads does well on small game. Shoot them enough to know where they hit in relation to your regular sight settings (and dont change the sight setting!!!)
I like the comment about the zombie/alien/teotwawki being dependant on the prop department of the movie you're in. That about sums up my view of such things. Nicely put, I'm stealing that.
I'm a believer in target quality guns, not the cheapest, smallest, lightest so-called "survival" gun. A target grade 22 pistol coupled with a centerfire rifle covers about all the bases nicely. A lever in 30-30 cal, or a scoped bolt gun in 30-06 will deal with realistic hunting needs, large or small, for as long as you'd care to be out. Either with light loads does well on small game. Shoot them enough to know where they hit in relation to your regular sight settings (and dont change the sight setting!!!)
I like the comment about the zombie/alien/teotwawki being dependant on the prop department of the movie you're in. That about sums up my view of such things. Nicely put, I'm stealing that.
FrankCastleThePunisher
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For a true all around survival rifle it would be an AR 15.
Sam1911
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I think the only thing I really worry about surviving is falling down a well and not being able to climb out.
So this is my ultimate survival gun: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=680145
So this is my ultimate survival gun: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=680145
If you're talking out of doors, if you take a fall and dent the tube, you're SOL. Most folks don't carry spare parts and tools to replace their tube magazine in the field, while detachable magazines make carrying spares easy.
I think every outdoorsman should carry one of these in their backpack, because you never know.
VA27
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Throw in one of the 22LR kits and have the best of both worlds.
DM~
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In over 50 years of shooting tube fed and magazine fed 22's, i haven't dented even one tube on a 22. BUT, "I" and other's i know have had magazines fail and more than a few of them have been lost.
There's no way a tube failure happens even close to the amount of times a magazine fails or is lost!
DM
22-rimfire
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My choice is a tube fed Marlin 22 Mag bolt action rifle. I would choose a CZ, but I want iron sights on the rifle also. Depending on your experience, I personally don't think you need to run 100's of rounds though it to be competent. I want something that I can kill a deer if I need to and still not have the noise and weight of a 223. In a survival situation, you will get to know your rifle really well.
This is for rural survival. Urban survival is a different matter.
All this is kind of crazy because I'm staying home.
This is for rural survival. Urban survival is a different matter.
All this is kind of crazy because I'm staying home.
ozo
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" and chasing "perfect equipment" is a waste of time."---bigfatdave
This has to be the best advice I have seen on any
gun forum in the last 10 years.
Kudos...Dave.
This has to be the best advice I have seen on any
gun forum in the last 10 years.
Kudos...Dave.
I like Jeepnik's idea. A shotgun is very flexible if you have the right ammo.
The ar-7 is a good idea.. they just aren't very accurate.
The ar-7 is a good idea.. they just aren't very accurate.
DM~
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I've had 2 or 3 of those AR7's, two of them broke an ear off the stock, all of them were jamo-matic's! A friends AR 7 also broke an ear off the stock and also jammed all the time.
I've had 5 of the Savage combo guns, none of them were regulated properly. With every one, the shot bbl didn't shoot to the rifle bbl., not something i'd want to depend on.
Not so with the Savage 2400, but it was made by Valmet, and a world better gun in every way!
I also have a little take down Browning auto... Mines made in Belgium and is a very good rifle, light, handy and a good shooter.
DM
I've had 5 of the Savage combo guns, none of them were regulated properly. With every one, the shot bbl didn't shoot to the rifle bbl., not something i'd want to depend on.
Not so with the Savage 2400, but it was made by Valmet, and a world better gun in every way!
I also have a little take down Browning auto... Mines made in Belgium and is a very good rifle, light, handy and a good shooter.
DM
Onward Allusion
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10/22 in SS w/ Synthetic Stock & iron sights.
meanmrmustard
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MachIVshooter
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Generally speaking, SBR AR-15.
-5.56 ammo is still pretty light, you can carry a lot of it.
-The pistol I have, which will be SBR once the stamp comes back, weighs under 6 lbs.
-Durable & reliable
-Enough power, range and accuracy to hunt big game with careful shot placement and proper bullet selection
-Sufficient firepower for a certain kind of "survival".
Having said that, if I'm going to be marooned somewhere where there will be no big game, I'd probably have to go with my Marlin 39A
If I'm going to be in an area where there are dangerous things in addition to game animals, I'd prefer a combo gun with a medium or large bore centerfire cartridge for one of the barrels.
-5.56 ammo is still pretty light, you can carry a lot of it.
-The pistol I have, which will be SBR once the stamp comes back, weighs under 6 lbs.
-Durable & reliable
-Enough power, range and accuracy to hunt big game with careful shot placement and proper bullet selection
-Sufficient firepower for a certain kind of "survival".
Having said that, if I'm going to be marooned somewhere where there will be no big game, I'd probably have to go with my Marlin 39A
If I'm going to be in an area where there are dangerous things in addition to game animals, I'd prefer a combo gun with a medium or large bore centerfire cartridge for one of the barrels.
meanmrmustard
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But not cheap. Even at this time for stock piling.
Range, yes. Accuracy, yes. Power? I limit myself to medium sized game with the 556/223. I'd still rather the 762x39 if predators of man are a concern.
Reliability, depends a lot on the use. I'd trust that AK more.
oldpapps
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" DM~
I've had 2 or 3 of those AR7's, two of them broke an ear off the stock, all of them were jamo-matic's! A friends AR 7 also broke an ear off the stock and also jammed all the time."
I've have and have shot my little AR-7 many, many, many thousands of times and don't ever remember it jamming. Maybe the one I bought in 1963 was better made. The only 'breakage' I have encountered was the seam in the plastic butt cover split one very cold day in 1970, got a new one in Greatfalls, Montana that same week, still have and using it. Maybe those plastic butt covers weren't made to be flexible at 30 below.
Back to the original thread.
Why would I want to 'Plain' to have only one weapon? One is never enough. It comes down to the situation again. I can carry a lot of .22s, but a .22 is not my first choice if faced with multiple marauders, 2 legged or four.
Be safe,
I've had 2 or 3 of those AR7's, two of them broke an ear off the stock, all of them were jamo-matic's! A friends AR 7 also broke an ear off the stock and also jammed all the time."
I've have and have shot my little AR-7 many, many, many thousands of times and don't ever remember it jamming. Maybe the one I bought in 1963 was better made. The only 'breakage' I have encountered was the seam in the plastic butt cover split one very cold day in 1970, got a new one in Greatfalls, Montana that same week, still have and using it. Maybe those plastic butt covers weren't made to be flexible at 30 below.
Back to the original thread.
Why would I want to 'Plain' to have only one weapon? One is never enough. It comes down to the situation again. I can carry a lot of .22s, but a .22 is not my first choice if faced with multiple marauders, 2 legged or four.
Be safe,
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