Big Iron Barrels Group Buy: Anyone else not get their order???

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mpmillen

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Hello all,

I sent Big Iron Barrels a check for a THR group buy from Taylor's on August 11, 2006. My check was cashed by Big Iron on August 30, 2006.

I still do not have the Rem 1858 revolver I ordered, and though I have received several promised shipment dates in email correspondence (the most recent being 12/15, and before that 12/1 and 12/8) Big Iron Barrels is refusing to respond to my request for a tracking number and will not even confirm shipment.

Taylor's confirmed for me that the model of gun I paid for was shipped to Big Iron in late Sept./early October.

Has anyone else not received their group buy item?

Has anyone received their group buy item?

Thank you,

Mark
 
Seein hows theys mostly drop shipped where in hell ya gettin off? Oh ya, heard ya dont pay yer bills fer tha work an expect shippin jus tha same?
 
Big Iron seems to be having real problems as of late. I ordered some bullets from them and after over a month and several e-mails saying I didn't get the bullets they sent me a refund and a promised to ship the bullets last monday via UPS. Still no bullets. I've been patient and have given them the benefit of the doubt but now I'm wondering if I've been gulable. However, I did get the refund. Still, I doubt I'll do business with them again, at least until I am assured they have their act together again.

Don
 
Manyirons, did you ever pay Sundance44s out of your own pocket like you said you would in the other thread? Thought not.

See Manyirons tell Sundance44s "Mr. ill sure take er from my own pocket an send er to ya." at: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=234458

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For Manyirons education:

Originally, in July/August 2006 "Jule" told me he would ship my guns and accessories with a bill and I would pay for the custom work upon receipt (I agreed to send BigIron a check for a new 1858 Rem for the group buy along with my own 1851 for custom work, which I did in August 2006).

After several months had gone by, I inquired repeatedly in November 2006 about the status of my order (after previous inquiries were not answered) and was told it had not been shipped because "I had not paid the bill for the custom work" - a bill I had never received or been made aware of, which makes it hard to pay!!!

Upon receiving "Jule"/"Third Rail's" November 2006 email advising me "Jule" now was demanding payment in advance of shipping my guns back to me, I paid the bill immediately upon being told how much was owed and had confirmation that the check was received on 11/29 and deposited in his bank on 11/30.

Since then, I have received confirmation from both "Jule" and "Third Rail" that all bills have been paid, I have been promised numerous ship dates (12/1, 12/8, and now 12/15), I have received nothing except empty promises.

I do not think it is unreasonable to ask if anyone else has paid for but not received their merchandise.

Why is it "Jule" is afraid to talk to me directly or to come to the board and explain to me how mistaken and unreasonable I am? He has both my phone number and my email and mailing addresses.

Why in the heck won't he ship my merchandise? Not really a good answer for that one, is there?

I even asked "Jule" to stop any work he had planned and ship all my property back to me regardless of whether the work had been done - he did not respond to this request.

The latest is that "Jule" does not like my "impatient" attitude and has advised that he is going to try and change the price on me - how can I ever be paid in full if "Jule" can't stick with a price.

I can and will document our transaction for anyone interested.

Education of Manyirons off.

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I again renew my request for any and all information from people that have paid and not received.

I also invite comments from those that have paid and have actually gotten what they paid for.

Also, has anyone actually met "Jule", "Third Rail," and/or "Manyirons" in person, and can anyone verify they are all different people? Can anyone advise if these are alter egos of the same person?

Mark


P.S. Since I am sure "Jule" will read this, if he wants to immediately refund me the $401.00 I paid him and his wife, along with the cost of my 1851 Uberti Navy, the cost of the 6 installed Treso nipples, the spare 1851 hand and spring I sent for fitting, and the cost of my El Paso holster for the 1851, (all together I come up with $900.00 including shipping costs), I am agreeable to such a resolution.
 
it ya change yer mind an ya complain. Sorry ya don like it but thas too bad. Pay yer bills and ya gets yer stuff i say.

FATHER KNOWS BEST

Ifin ya wantem undone, tell me. Ill tell HIM an thas that!

An when SUNDANCE cause its MY fault sends his addie ill send his $$!
 
Again, Manyirons, as I noted above in detail, bill was paid immediately upon being presented to me, shipment was been promised for 12/1, 12/8 and 12/15, and requests to confirm shipment or for tracking number have been ignored.

Is there anything you do not understand about what I have explained?

Is it possible that Big Iron might be at fault here? Or is that impossible in your world? Are you actually "Jule"?

Mark
 
I haven't ordered anything from Big Iron, but I did meet Tom (Third_Rail) personally here in Connecticut 2-3 months ago after conversing with him on this site. I invited him and his wife to visit my gun club's shooting range here in Connecticut and to do some shooting, which we did one afternoon. I found both him and his wife to be very nice and sincere people.
I personally have no doubt that he is not impersonating Jule or Manyirons, there's just no way IMHO that could be the case.
I hope that the whole situation gets resolved, the sooner the better.
Thanks for keeping all of us posted.
 
For everyone's benefit, "Jule" was kind enough to call my office a few moments ago and also just now sent an email "confirming" that everything would be shipped to me on 12/22 . . . . . . .

No explanation for why prior shipment dates passed with no shipment.

And on it goes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Mark
 
Sundance44s

ManyIrons as for my check ..i think you know what you can do with it ...
All 3 of you ..have told me it was in the mail .. ive given you my address 3 times .. I`ll write mine off as a lesson well learned . I was testing the water for a much bigger buy from BigIron .. Glad he showed me his way of doing business before that happened .. I would have been on my way to Ohio now .
 
Sundance44s

Does anyone have an address for BigIron Barrel works besides a Post Box ?
I would like to make a report to the BBB ( better business bureau ) in Ohio .
How about you ManyIrons ... got an address for me ?
 
I'm just a new guy here but I hope that the attitude of this "manyirons" character doesn't set the tone for this site.
 
noller: i wouldent let the argueing of 2 or 3 people influence you about the people in the black powder forum.

most are nice and very knowlageable people.
 
If you sent your payment via certified check and have been getting nothing but waffling, call the ****er up and tell him you'll be contacting the authorities about mail fraud - which is a felony in and of itself, with additional reprecussions if it's a high-dollar amount (god only knows what will be the case with firearms).

Now, if he was experiencing problems - honest to God problems - he should've told you, and you could have been understanding. But saying "I'll get'er done!" and nothing materializes at all, well. That sounds like attempted fraud to me.

If that doesn't get the package there immediately (like, tomorrow by lunch) then I'd suggest contacting the authorities.
 
Sundance44s

Odd thing , been thinking I bet ManyIrons is Juel .
Will the real Juel please stand up ! :confused:
 
Last summer, when they told George to die because he said their lube prices were too high should have been a warning...
 
Maybe George was right. I was told several months ago that they would send some samples to try out and I never got them. I contacted them a few more times but never got them. I don't know, but after reading this I am glad that I never ordered or sent a pistol in.

If you are reading this George, good call!
 
First post and all, so please excuse for the most part my ignorance, but is this Jule character the one known as Der Hauptmann? The one who speaks in riddles and cannot form proper sentences? I dare ask who in the right mind would send him any money and expect him to actually be on the level...? :uhoh:

If he's someone altogether different, then I offer my humblest apologies. :eek:
 
Interesting...

For the heck of it, go back to Manyirons' first posts, back in December 2005.
Back then, he had a really good command of the English language. But watch it deteriorate as he posts more often and starts selling his - or tha Manns - wares...
Sundance, I think thou art correct...
 
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