Big treason bust

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too bad they don't still shoot people for treason.


Infiltration of files seen as extensive
Senate panel's GOP staff pried on Democrats

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff, 1/22/2004

WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, Senate officials told The Globe.


From the spring of 2002 until at least April 2003, members of the GOP committee staff exploited a computer glitch that allowed them to access restricted Democratic communications without a password. Trolling through hundreds of memos, they were able to read talking points and accounts of private meetings discussing which judicial nominees Democrats would fight -- and with what tactics.

The office of Senate Sergeant-at-Arms William Pickle has already launched an investigation into how excerpts from 15 Democratic memos showed up in the pages of the conservative-leaning newspapers and were posted to a website last November.

With the help of forensic computer experts from General Dynamics and the US Secret Service, his office has interviewed about 120 people to date and seized more than half a dozen computers -- including four Judiciary servers, one server from the office of Senate majority leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, and several desktop hard drives.

But the scope of both the intrusions and the likely disclosures is now known to have been far more extensive than the November incident, staffers and others familiar with the investigation say.

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/


Regardless of one political leanings, this is disgraceful and undermines what's left of our democracy. Honestly this is the type of treason I expect from Dems not the GOP. But I don't care which party perpetrated the espionage, treason of this magnitude should result in heads rolling. It will be a test of the real honesty and integrity of the Bush admin to see how they play this out. I don't hold high hopes for them doing a thing about it though.
 
If true, then it is a crime, but not a high crime. Politicians leak, sow innuendo, and generally one-up each other every day. THis act is analogous to a hacker. The source of the information may not have been known to the persons authorizing its use. I will watch this one to see what develops.
 
Looks like business as usual. There is a large nasty boil in D.C. that needs lanced. All the contents removed and placed in a sanitary landfill. The patient known as the United States of America will continue to degrade until this happens. One of these days it will kill it.
 
Regardless of one political leanings, this is disgraceful and undermines what's left of our democracy.
Yes.
Honestly this is the type of treason I expect from Dems not the GOP. But I don't care which party perpetrated the espionage, treason of this magnitude should result in heads rolling.
It's not treason, but yes, heads should roll if true.

Then again, if you visit the Capitol Rotunda, you'll learn about how in the 19th Century one party used to spy on the other because the victims unwittingly had whispered meetings at a desk at one of the foci of the rotunda, so even soft whispers could be heard at the other focus.
 
If I remember the Paul Harvey rest of the story on this correctly...

Said computer file system was installed prior to the 2002 mid term elections-when the Dems controlled the Senate (50-49-1) and thus all the committees. When the system was installed, the GOP committee members complained/objected about security problems on the system. But nothing was done about it, at least not until some of the stuff got leaked.

The Dems knew their stuff wasn't secure, but they put it there anyway. And the Dems had the same access to the GOP side of the system. I have a hard time believing there weren't Dem staffers doing the same thing the GOP staffers were.

Trusting the security of your documents to the 'honor' of politicians is just plain stupid.
 
Big treason bust

Somebody obviously hasn't read the Constitution of the United States. Treason is quite clearly defined therein. And this ain't it (assuming it is true at all).
 
Look at this way: if breaking into Democratic files/offices/computers was treason, we could have executed the entire Republikan party along with NIxxon back when.

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[blockquote]From the spring of 2002 until at least April 2003, members of the GOP committee staff exploited a computer glitch that allowed them to access restricted Democratic communications without a password.[/blockquote]
In other words, Democrats couldn't figure out how to restrict access to their secret memos. Cry me a river. Unethical, sure. Illegality depends on whether Senate/House rules make unethical spying a crime.
 
In other words, Democrats couldn't figure out how to restrict access to their secret memos. Cry me a river.

Or,

The Democrats didn't expect that the Republikans were quite as unethical (morally challenged) as they clearly are, so they saw no need for a high level of security.

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Glitch, my foot

From what I heard about this, the mail/authentication servers were being run professionally, SECURELY by non-pazrtisan gov't employees. Then the Dems got control of the Senate & took control (physical & administrative) of the servers. They had their partisan hacks (pun intended) admin them.
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Well, they administered them poorly, not locking down users/groups accesses properly.
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Essentially, the Dems arrogance, power-hunger, and ignorance left them vulnerable to the Republicans. Sound familiar?
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The Dems had the same access to the Rep's files, but were too d@amn dim to use it & the Reps were too smart to leave incriminating memos for the Dems to harvest.
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