Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by daniel craig, Jul 2, 2020.
The Boker Kalashnikov.
I think it was this one, but in desert khaki.
I was never accused of letting good taste get in my way. Here's someone else's video
I bought them when they first showed up months ago and were on sale.
I ordered one but was refused. I didnt meet the criteria.
So, this first option, does that mean anyone who works for the federal government in any capacity?
Not how I read it....I thought it meant someone who can purchase supplies for a fed agency.
I suppose any of us who have owned a parachute shroud knife have already violated the Switchblade Act, so we have nothing more to lose. Still, it's interesting to me that knife dealers want to make sure you know it's illegal before they sell it to you. Here's hoping that our government will see the folly in taking a knife to a gunfight and recognize that a button isn't likely to change the outcome.
The law requires a purchasing authority.
As I said, retailers predominantly ignore the law and only post the language pro forma.
The laws are applicable to sellers in interstate commerce, not the buyer.
I thought so too until the last sentence
Welp. They won’t ship to me because I don’t meet one of those requirements and I don’t feel like being dishonest.
Blade HQ probably isn't interest in N.Y. unless you can attest you meet one of the criteria.
Others aren't as rigorous.
Interesting that one big retailer lists 3,400 varieties of automatic knife, but to no avail for many of us. Solely a function of where our mailing address happens to be. Here's the AKTI graphic: https://www.akti.org/state-laws-regarding-automatics/
As we all know it depends upon state laws and vigor of their enforcement whether large retailers want to do business in that state. If the laws change to be friendlier to autos, then the acceptance of the retailer for the risk improves.
Given the way NY courts are, it’s probably best if I don’t carry an Auto OR an assisted.
Oddly enough, I can drive the 60ish miles to the nearest microtech dealer and buy a otf knife over the counter...if I have $238 to drop on a pocketknife.
<<<<same guy that lost a skeletool in the surf .
The Kalashnikov is a budget auto, but feels cheap in the hand. Fit and finish is decent, the aluminum handles are low quality paint comes off easy, sharp aus8 bladethat holds a decent edge, and good ergos. I got the xl version, I like the size. It fires lethargically with a pickey pivot tension between solid lockup and smooth travel.
That said, its not safe to me, the design is where the large button is not recessed.
I would rather carry a cheap lightning otf instead of the Kalashnikov, and taking autos out of it and just looking at budget price i would far prefer my Buck 110 vs the Boker. I ditched buying any side opening autos in favor of otfs in autos.
Look at Knife Rights' court case and legal reform in NY.
Still doesn’t mean the cops won’t harass you for having one if they find one on you.
Also, turns out benchmade has a decent prodeal program so I might look into that.
I've had a Boker Kalashnikov for years. In fact, this is the model: https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Kalashnikov--105
I'm quite surprised that I like it as much as I do. It's relatively light, comes in a handy size, fires well and reliably, takes a very nice edge and holds it decently well. Though I've scratched a lot of the paint off of the blade sawing things up with the serrations, and though the handle is scuffed down to the bare aluminum in a few places and it has that funky wavy clip, it's been a lot of fun, feels very comfortable in my hand, and is certainly a knife I can recommend without reservation. Yes, I have replaced the spring once, but replacements are easy to get, easy to install, work well, and seem to last a long time.
As Yo Mama wrote, it feels cheap next to my Microtech, but I've not had any accidental firings with it rolling around in, or clipped to, a pocket.
Except as I noted previously, autos are still illegal in NY, a court ruling a couple of years ago found assisted knives were switchblades, so also illegal.
But gravity knives, which were previously illegal, are now legal in NY.
I recently got this model in D2, #0003 of a thousand-unit run. I upgraded the clip to titanium. The button on mine is decently recessed, and it fires just fine. The seller (which I will recall sooner or later, but doesn't spring to mind right this moment) also sold me a replacement spring. Aside from the action, I agree with most of the comments above. I bought it because I simply didn't have a good self-opener, nor did I have a pocket knife in D2. This scratched both itches. Had I known how much I was going to like the knife, I would have bought two because the price, all inclusive, was under $60 shipped.
Best to detail what the NY Supreme Court ruled. This was a prosecution of mail employee carrying an assisted opener for carrying a switchblade. The case appealed up to the state Supreme Court and the majority ruled that the knife constituted a switchblade (even though there was no device on the handle to open the blade). That's a specific decision on a specific case, but it establishes case law that could be used against someone charged as carrying an assisted openers with a switchblade violation (state law allows switchblades while engaged in hunting/fishing). So, the law in NY state restricts when/where/what switchblades are legal to carry. Knife Rights issued a warning in 2018 about the SCNY ruling and advised caution about carrying assisted openers because of that court ruling.
If this is the decision https://kniferights.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/People_v_Berrezueta_06072018.pdf it would seem that a knife clip is reasonable cause for a stop. Apparently the knife in question had a stud on the blade, and that was treated as a button on the handle by the court. I have no idea if a hole or flipper would be treated the same, but the majority of the court seemed to apply the "black rifle" theory that if it looks evil or scary, it must not be allowed.
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