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By Nicole Gaouette Times Staff Writer Thu Aug 18, 7:55 AM ET

WASHINGTON — The decision by the governors of Arizona and New Mexico to declare states of emergency along their troubled borders with Mexico has embarrassed the Department of Homeland Security, which scrambled Wednesday to defend itself from charges that it wasn't doing enough to combat the crime and violence associated with drug smuggling and illegal immigration.
The unusual action by two Democratic governors and the Bush administration's response reflected the political tensions that surround the nation's conflicting attitudes toward border control.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger expressed support for the actions of his neighboring governors. He said California did not need to declare its own border emergency at the moment but that he would consider it if conditions changed.

Last Friday, responding to pressure from border communities, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson declared an emergency in four counties that he said had been "devastated by the ravages and terror of human smuggling, drug smuggling, kidnapping, murder, destruction of property and death of livestock." On Monday, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano followed suit in four counties, declaring through a spokeswoman that the federal government "has not done what it needs to do and has promised to do" to deal with the problem.

Schwarzenegger said he supported Richardson and Napolitano's actions. "Right now, we are having the things somewhat under control, so there was no reason for it yet," he said Wednesday during an interview on San Diego radio station KFMB. "But if there is a reason for it, we definitely will do that."

Schwarzenegger called the state of emergency "a terrific idea" and said the nation must do more to secure its borders.

Rejecting criticism of its work, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, said the problems that Richardson and Napolitano cited were the result of successfully enforcing border laws elsewhere.

Moreover, said the spokesman, Mario Villarreal, trouble in those relatively sparsely populated areas had been anticipated, and additional resources had been dispatched to deal with them.

"This is one indication of gaining operational control of the border," Villarreal said. An enforcement drive in the Tucson sector of Arizona has forced illegal immigrants to cross the border in the counties Napolitano had declared disaster areas, he said. The agency had expected immigrants to go there and "we had already permanently assigned an increase in staffing to those sectors," he said.

The agency plans to boost staff 20% along the Arizona border this year and has doubled the patrol aircraft there, Villarreal said, and the El Paso sector, which covers all of New Mexico and part of Texas, will get 300 additional agents.

The Bush administration announced a new bilateral program with Mexico to prosecute human smugglers, called the Operation Against Smugglers Initiative on Safety and Security, although no money was earmarked for the program.

Some people were quick to accuse the governors of political maneuvering. Napolitano and Richardson face elections next year, and Richardson is thought to be considering a run for the presidency in 2008. The governor of Texas, a Republican, showed no sign of following his neighbors' examples.

"This is Janet-come-lately," Arizona state Rep. Russell Pearce, a Republican from Mesa, said of Napolitano's action. "I'm glad she's finally waking up to the crisis. I wish it was more than pure politics."

But there was no such partisan edge to the reactions of leading Republican members of Congress from the two states or from Schwarzenegger.

"I think that it was terrific that Gov. Richardson was the first one to announce this state of emergency, because first of all he's Latino," Schwarzenegger said. "So it was very clear — because so many times when you make a move like that you're considered immediately a racist."

Schwarzenegger also suggested that other states — including California — might follow New Mexico and Arizona's lead. "So we are talking about that right now, and if we see a need for that we will do definitely the same thing," he said.

Schwarzenegger's comments come four months after the governor praised a campaign by a private group known as the Minutemen, which used armed volunteers to patrol the Arizona-Mexico border. He said then that the federal government wasn't doing enough to secure the border.

Rep. Jeff Flake (news, bio, voting record) (R-Ariz.), who has played a prominent role in Washington's continuing battles over immigration policy, said: "It surprises me that [the governors] have waited this long…. It's a dire situation in all of Arizona. The federal government has typically acted after the fact. Until we get a guest-worker program, any effort will be marginal."

Flake said Washington's efforts to boost the number of Border Patrol agents had failed. An intelligence bill in 2004 authorized 2,000 new border agents for the five years starting in 2006, but "not a dime reached Border Patrol; it was all spent in Washington," he said. When President Bush signed the budget for fiscal year 2006, he authorized Customs and Border Protection to hire 210 additional agents.

"I think the governor's approach was called for," said Sen. Pete V. Domenici (news, bio, voting record) (R-N.M.). "I find no fault with it, given the turmoil in these communities along the border. I've spoken with the governor and told him so. We're finally to a boiling point.

"But this step is not going to solve the problem either," Domenici said. "It's an interim step. What we need is an immigration policy. We need to put resources into enforcement, then have a plan for this huge drive of people to come over the border."

Richardson's declaration freed $750,000 from state coffers for Luna, Hidalgo, Grant and Doña Ana counties, and he pledged to provide $1 million more. Napolitano's action will funnel an estimated $1.5 million to Pima, Cochise, Santa Cruz and Yuma counties.

For their part, officials in the counties designated as disaster areas brushed aside questions of politics. They expressed gratitude for the emergency funding. And they offered grim, sometimes grisly glimpses of the burdens — economic, social and psychological — that drug and immigrant smuggling impose on ill-equipped communities along the border.

Luna County, N.M., Undersheriff Raymond Cobos said: "It was pretty bold, pretty brave on the governor's part."

Cobos indicated that what concerned him was not illegal immigration but the local problems that came with it, including deaths of would-be immigrants. "It's intolerable to us that people die out here," he said.

Also, he said, ranchers complain that illegal immigrants scare cattle away from watering holes. With groups of 20 or 30 immigrants there, "cattle stay away. It's hot and dry; they stay away; their health fails. Ranchers are very frustrated. They're not doing anything but ranching….

"We have ranchers with as much as a mile of border fence stolen. The feds say it's the responsibility of the farmer to maintain the border fence."

On a grimmer note, Pima County's chief deputy administrator, Martin Willett, said his New Mexico office would ask for emergency money to pay for expansion of refrigeration space in the Pima morgue. Because of the death toll associated with smuggling and illegal immigration, he said, the county doubled the size of its morgue a year ago.

But the 120-body-capacity unit is now inadequate. "We're out of room," Willett said. He plans to apply for $150,000 to double the space.

"Emergency doesn't begin to describe the day-to-day reality of living in these four border counties," Napolitano's spokeswoman, Jeanine L'Ecuyer, said.

She said counties had indicated they would like to use the money to pay for such local expenses as enhanced police patrols, night vision goggles and overtime pay.
 
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger expressed support for the actions of his neighboring governors. He said California did not need to declare its own border emergency at the moment but that he would consider it if conditions changed.
Oh yes, we do, Arnold. I live in San Diego County. Every morning, across the street from my office, there is a group of 30-50 illegals, standing on the road, waiting for work. They camp out every night in the canyon behind the road. And this is in a town with a population of 3,000. The border patrol won't do anything. The Sheriff's deputies won't, or can't, do anything.
 
Marshall, I would tend to think that states could not close their boarders to other citizens, but I think boarder states can choose to enforce national boarders, just like they can enforce other federal laws. It is still illegal to enter the country without proper papers, so they can just sit at the boarder and arrest everyone who comes across without proper papers. That should discourage them, I think.
 
NEWS FLASH GUYS!!!

Local deputy sheriffs and AZ. Dept of Public Safety officers are not going to do anything about illegal border crossers, because to be frank - that's not what they are being paid for, and Uncle Sam won't pick up the tab. Heck, the folks in Washington won't even say thanks. :fire:

The only exception to this might be if illegals became involved in other crimes - which the often do. But then if they are sent to the pen, state taxpayers have to pay the bills --- again! :cuss:

From a tax base point of view, the border counties in New Mexico and Arizona are pretty poor, and lack the financial resources to take on what is a Federal responsibility. It has been suggested that Arizona's governor call out the National Guard. In theory she might do this, but as a practical matter there is no money to support such an action. Same in New Mexico. :banghead:
 
It is federal law without federal money that requires hospitals to treat anyone who shows up. LA closed something like 60+ ER's because the financial drain was so bad.

Since states foot the bill for medicaid, what is to prohibit states from simply saying, "Tweet, pool party is over." and stop paying bills.

Federales are keeping hands off by direction of Bush. It is almost as if he is deliberately creating an intolerable situation which will force the state or individuals to act. I think we are moving into an awkward phase where all sorts of interesting events can happen. Bush is evidently playing a game of brinksmanship. He may not lose but spinelessrepublicans will if they don't split from him.
 
Schwarzenegger's comments come four months after the governor praised a campaign by a private group known as the Minutemen, which used armed volunteers to patrol the Arizona-Mexico border. He said then that the federal government wasn't doing enough to secure the border.

Hmmm, since when were the minutemen armed?
 
This is completely off the topic, but am i the only one that gets the impression that Arnold Schwarzenegger is an embarasment to the human race at large? I used to actually respect the man, right up to the point where he stopped reading from a script.
 
Local deputy sheriffs and AZ. Dept of Public Safety officers are not going to do anything about illegal border crossers, because to be frank - that's not what they are being paid for, and Uncle Sam won't pick up the tab. Heck, the folks in Washington won't even say thanks.

The only exception to this might be if illegals became involved in other crimes - which the often do. But then if they are sent to the pen, state taxpayers have to pay the bills --- again!
Can states deport people? If so, Texas could put them right back over the border for minor offenses. Failing that, Texas could, having given proper notice, dump them in Arkansas, which could dump them in Tennesee, then on to Virginia, Maryland, and then put them right in DC. See what happens when they're cluttering up the Mall.
 
Anything that involves a state flexing its muscles and embarrasing the Dept of Homeland Security sounds good on the surface, to me.

DHS and BATFEed need to go get absorbed by the FBI.

In fact, we should just call the FBI, the Federal Law Enforcement Agency.

How does FLEA sound?
 
Look at it this way. Imagine you're an illegal.

If you get across the border, no one will turn you in. Many state and local police won't do it because "we're not paid to do that." In some states and police departments it is against regulations or even against the law to report an illegal, even if you arrest him for a crime!

The court says your children can go to public school and the teachers can't report them.

You can go to a hospital, apply for welfare and other social services, and the public employees there will help you and not report you.

In some states (Kansas, for example, and proposed in my own state, Arkansas) if you are an illegal you get a free college education. (Mere citizens and legal aliens, of course, pay full price for college.)

There is what amounts to a conspiracy by public officials to hide illegals when they get here. No amount of "sealing" the border will overcome that.
 
Walk around Los Angeles: illegal aliens here are absolutely fearless. They know they've won. They will be showing us the door before too much longer.

I understand because I have seen huge changes in my little town in just the past 5 years in terms of attitude. Much of this could have been prevented ith controlled immigration, a large percentage of south america wants to come here, what concerns me is not only the economics but the fighting that is sure to come if it continues.

America can absorb huge numbers and I understand that but it must be done in a slow process something our government doesn't know or perhaps could care less. :confused:
 
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