Boston teacher's perverted views on self defense.

Status
Not open for further replies.
My grandma always told me a statistic, I might be a little off so don't quote me on it. It was something like if you are running you have a 74% chance of not getting hit if you are being shot at, if you do get shot you have an 86% of the wound being non life threatening. Does anyone know how accurate that is?
 
quality satire and epic trolling

more hilarity from Doug Van Gorder ...



http://www.wickedlocal.com/quincy/n...ON-Better-to-spread-rights-than-to-hoard-them

YOUR OPINION: Better to spread rights than to hoard them

Mon Dec 21, 2009, 05:00 AM EST

QUINCY - Trying Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in civilian court signals America both strives for global approval and recognizes equality among all citizens of the world.
Should evidence from waterboarding be excluded at trial, some fear the accused may be found not guilty and freed to commit further attacks.
But threat of attack is much diminished now due to America’s increased global approval, approval that is a virtual security blanket President Obama has knitted from hope, change and powerful supplications before the world.
Should evidence from waterboarding not be excluded – admittedly setting a precedent permitting torture of citizens too – it will be worth the loss of our protections from such tactics in order to redistribute our rights to all humanity.
Better to spread rights, slightly thinned, than to hoard them even for our own children. Thankfully, our president values global equality, underscored each time he rightfully bows before world leaders in symbolic atonement for our disproportionate quality of life.
DOUG VAN GORDER
Quincy
Click to expand...
 
This is why he's a teacher..

...

Sounds like he would also be against Fire fighting fire, in that, setting a back-fire would starve the main fire of any more fuel, but he would rather let the fire take its natural course than burn innocent trees, bushes, grass, etc., as, in his thinking, aiding/helping the fires destruction rather than preventing far more destruction, on a hope, and let natural selection take its course rather than sacrifice any unburned areas/trees/bushes, grass, etc.

As mentioned, I don't think this guy really has any kids (least any love for them if he does), the same as don't burn my beautiful trees (my view, my shade) to save the town 1 mile from my house and property just because the wind is right.


Ls
 
This is classic "illustrating the absurd with the absurd". This guy is GOOD. To agree with this guy, progressives must also sign on to sacrificing their own children to the anti-gun crowd. To disagree, they must move to a position they are uncomfortable with.

As in math, for a theory to become a law it must hold true in every instance, from the ridiculous to the sublime.
 
It's satire, a troll, etc.

If it's not, how do you explain this?...

Focus should be on revising police policies

August 03, 2008

Regarding the Yarmouth police shooting, the public seems more concerned with debating whether the officer should be investigated for violating department policies than in deciding whether such policies are valid.

Police department policies forbid an officer to shoot if he has reasonable expectation of escape by backing away. If it be judged the Yarmouth officer could have backed away, policy holds he was wrong to shoot. And we're OK with that?

Police department policies forbid an officer to pursue a suspect who is driving to endanger. If it be judged the Yarmouth officer should have ended the pursuit, policy holds he was wrong there, too. And we're OK with that?

Our ire should not be based on the fact that an officer accomplished a positive good and is nevertheless being investigated; if he did violate policy, all we could say is, "Gee, I guess everything is OK then."

Everything is not OK. What should enrage the public is that we allow our local governments to hogtie our police officers with policies overly tolerant of criminal behavior. Rewrite police department policies to maximize protection for officers and the public, and let those who challenge law enforcement maximize their own protection by standing still and placing their hands over their heads.

Doug Van Gorder

Quincy
Click to expand...

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...30349/-1/rss08

This one is incomplete, but there's enough there to get the idea.

FWIW... the former CLEO of Quincy was vehemently anti-gun.


Article: Bad Quincy gun policies

Article from:
The Patriot Ledger Quincy, MA
Article date:
September 7, 2005
Author:
Doug Van Gorder, Quincy CopyrightCopyright 2005 The Patriot Ledger Quincy, MA. Provided by ProQuest LLC.
rg

A recent Patriot Ledger article informed readers that Quincy residents are planning a rally across from the police station on Sept. 17. They do so to protest Chief Crowley's policy that Quincy residents should be denied the right to carry firearms in Massachusetts for what he terms generic self-defense.

Criminals must applaud the chief in his attempt to keep guns out of the hands of the general population. They find it hard ...
Click to expand...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-9444975.html

If anyone has a subscription at Highbeam, please post the entire letter.
 
To agree with this guy, progressives must also sign on to sacrificing their own children to the anti-gun crowd.
Click to expand...

What nitetrane98 said.

Taking the anti-self-defense theory to its logical conclusion (however absurd it might be) may cause those with ears to hear and eyes to see to experience an epiphany. There will also be those who agree with it wholeheartedly - but they are simply beyond reason on the subject.

As Dr Winslow pointed out, there is probably no other way to get a letter published in MA. I have had many letters on a variety of subjects published in the local paper here in Seattle (an anti-self-defense bastion in an otherwise well-armed state). But not one of the letters I've written on the subject of defensive firearms has seen the light of day.

I'd love to write something as elegant as this and see what happens when submitted to the local rag.
 
I don't think it's satire at all. I've heard the same idiocy spewed with a straight face here in Nazi Jersey. Live here long enough and you will discover how truly gutless a gutless wonder can be. I think Julia Gorin pinned the tail on Dougie's donkey in this piece... http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin030802.asp
Click to expand...

It is satire, but that Julia Gorin piece could be the perspective Doug was writing from -- and by doing so, ridiculing. They are saying the same thing, just using extremely different approaches. (I really liked the "A level barrel is fair to all fish." part. I wish I could mix metaphors that effectively)
 
Normally I would guess that the letter was satire, except that I actually know someone who thinks that way. She simply does not believe in self defense by force. We asked her once what she would do if Charles Manson appeared on her doorstep and said "I'm here to kill you, and I'm not going to leave until I do." She said (I am not making this up) that she would invite him in for a cup of tea, and simply talk him out of it. I know what you're thinking, but no, she was dead serious.

There really are people out there who are that clueless.

Tim
 
TimRB said:
Normally I would guess that the letter was satire, except that I actually know someone who thinks that way. She simply does not believe in self defense by force. We asked her once what she would do if Charles Manson appeared on her doorstep and said "I'm here to kill you, and I'm not going to leave until I do." She said (I am not making this up) that she would invite him in for a cup of tea, and simply talk him out of it. I know what you're thinking, but no, she was dead serious.

There really are people out there who are that clueless.
Click to expand...

That's true enough, and I've always wondered what "kind" of people these are and how they go about "thinking" as they do. To simply label them liberals is inadequate, and "liberal" is a misused, misappropriated term these days anyway. Is it accurate to label them socialists? It'll have to do. The difference between them and other people is chiefly twofold: their view of personal responsibility and how it ties in with the basis of their fear response.

First off, these people generally do not fear other people the same way that most of us do. I don't know whether it's in their genes as some kind of ultra-extraversion or something, but they tend to view people as all being the same, and highly subject to external forces and influences that cause them to behave in certain ways rather than free will or individualism. To them, people are a product of experiences and circumstances, and are not innately responsible for what they do. This is why they fear guns so--in their minds, guns were created to do harm and therefore inspire people to harm others (the gun made me do it!). Guns are also perhaps the ultimate symbol of responsibility, which socialists fear even more than guns per se. The only entity capable of handling responsibility, in their view, is the government (and to a more limited extent, "society") which exists to protect people from things they fear, such as guns and responsibility. The only people there are to blame is everybody, never somebody--that and inanimate objects that enable individuals to commit violence. Violence is always bad because it hurts people, and there is no difference between hurting a murder victim and the murderer because the latter is merely a "victim" of his circumstances. Society has failed him by not ensuring "equal" circumstances and government has failed him by allowing him to have a gun with which to commit murder.

This is why some people would be willing to talk to a guy like Charles Manson instead of filling him with lead like any rational person would do (assuming he attacked). Manson is the same as everybody else, and once he realizes that he's just a victim of government and society, then of course he won't hurt anybody, right? That's better than using an evil gun (symbol of scary responsibility) to commit evil violence against somebody who is just like me (morally equivalent) and not responsible for his actions, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Obviously, I don't have to explain the opposing point of view.
 
Those that are unwilling to fight will never know the true taste of freedom. They are made free and kept free by the efforts of better men than themselves.
 
Surely, this must be satire. No one is that stupid. I hope.


edit:

Ahhh I've read some of his other writting and now i know it IS satire, thank god.
 
Last edited:
As a teacher myself, I must say I am ashamed that I have the same profession as this idiot! I cannot come up with any reasonable reason that anyone would think such a thing, much less articulate it!
 
TimRB said:
Normally I would guess that the letter was satire, except that I actually know someone who thinks that way. She simply does not believe in self defense by force. We asked her once what she would do if Charles Manson appeared on her doorstep and said "I'm here to kill you, and I'm not going to leave until I do." She said (I am not making this up) that she would invite him in for a cup of tea, and simply talk him out of it. I know what you're thinking, but no, she was dead serious.

There really are people out there who are that clueless.

Tim
Click to expand...
Those people are moral absolutists. For a moral absolutist, the morality of an act is divorced from the consequences of the act. For a nonviolence moral absolutist, any act of violence is wrong. They would be nonviolent even at the cost of their life.

These are the same people who wouldn't steal food to save a starving child or harm one innocent person to save a thousand more. A perverted lot they are.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

U
  • Locked
TX Teachers with guns: New Article
Replies
24
Views
802
CountGlockula
CountGlockula
C
  • Locked
Texas Gun Training Class for School Teachers Sells Out, Over 400 Teachers Attend
Replies
9
Views
730
wacki
W
C
  • Locked
Gun class for Utah teachers
Replies
18
Views
868
Car Knocker
C
Mainsail
  • Locked
Arming school employees for safety in schools
Replies
5
Views
448
Picard
P
S
  • Locked
A ray of hope for realistic school shooting defense
Replies
5
Views
1K
luzyfuerza
luzyfuerza
Back
Top