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Bowling for Columbine....I rented it.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by NIGHTWATCH, Sep 10, 2003.

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  1. NIGHTWATCH

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    Yes, I gave into the temptation. The kind of temptation that you feel when you hear that someone wrote something about you on the bathroom wall. I wanted to know. :cool:

    What I will tell you is that this film is not only about guns. It is about many things. The one thing that does emerge from it is the huge role that media plays in creating a culture of fear and the fortunes that are reaped as a result.

    I would say that all gunowners should see this film. This is not a pro RKBA film but it did help me to see that we gunowners had better stop engaging gun control advocates on the grounds of crime. We had better remind this nation that the Second Amendment is about having the ability to overthrow government. And we had better stop associating ourselves unconditonally with any political party other than "We the People".
     
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    I have been tempted to rent this thing since it came out on DVD, just for the curiosity factor. I think I have a "rent one, get one free" coupon somewhere.:p
     
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    I would not give One thin dime to that walking puss factory. I do not need to see crap to know it stinks.
     
  5. MAKOwner

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    I downloaded it to watch it free awhile back, I caught several of the inconsistencies but had no idea the depth of BS in it till I checked out the hardylaw link shortly thereafter. Moore has done a massive disservice to this country with his crap, and I may indeed hurl if I hear one more sheeple sucker talking about what a great documentary it is... Several have completely reversed their opinion when the truth was layed out though, so there is hope...
     
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    This Michael Moore Bowling for columbine viewing dilema reminds me of an old skit:


    A Russian officer and his subordinate are walking through the snow when they come across some "excrement"

    Officer: What Dat?

    Solider: Look like S***

    Officer: Pick up!

    Solider: What?

    Officer:pICK UP!

    Officer: SMELL!

    Solider: Sniff, pwew!

    Soldier: Smell like S***.

    Officer: Good thing we not step in it.
     
  7. NIGHTWATCH

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    I have read everything there is to read about the bias of this film against gunownership. I just had to see it for myself, and Im glad I did. :) Some thoughts...

    *We talk often here about SHTF scenarios all the time. This movie leaves me with the impression that "We the People" have all the information we need to justify a revolution and know that it is coming. Someone just has to start it though. Until then, things are getting kinda crazy. Times are kinda.....well, constipated. :rolleyes:

    It also confirmed what I have said previously about the NRA, it needs to diversify. It needs very much to give people of color a chance to share their spotlight and show the world that gunownership is not a "white thang" only. To show that the white man in America is not driven to gun ownership because of his deep and binding fear of the black man.

    *Moore got to spend some time with the "Michigan Militia" and it was a positive.

    *My advice, dont be afraid or ashamed to see this film. As a gunowner, Im so glad I did. It has helped me to see what time it is. We are being manipulated in the worst way. We the people are being mislead, herded, used, abused and left for dead. And a revolution is inevitable.

    *The point that moore sided with the ANTI'S in a big way was when he concluded that a society that is driven by such great fear should not have guns. Thats when it occured to me that it is time for the S to HTF.

    *I was pretty upset to see those 2 punks walking through the school (caught on security camera) as if they were GODS. It angered me to think that not one teacher or adult had a gun to put them down early, saving many lives.

    This film was an education. And any gunowner who is serious about the 2A had better see it. To not do so would be foolish and ignorant. How else can I argue in defense of the 2A if I dont know what I am talking about? I needed to see it in order to make a case. Just my 2.
     
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    I was forced to watch "Roger and Me" recently for a film studies class. Luckily, the professor included some very scathing criticisms in the course reader. There was much in the film that was completely bogus and I would have missed it had it not been pointed out in the criticism.

    For example, it "documents" Flint, MI during the 1986 final shutdowns and shows R. Reagan touring the area, giving encouragement. What it doesn't say is that Reagan never visited Flint in 1986: the footage is from his 1980 Presidential campaign, long before the final shutdown. Another problem among many was that Moore implied that the shutdown cost 30,000 jobs overnight. In fact, it was a long-term (decades) phased shutdown.

    One can only wonder the impression it gave those not privy to similar criticism.
     
  9. feedthehogs

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    Always view and review what the enemy is doing.

    You can't intelligently rebut if you don't know what was said.

    Also you won't be caught with your pants around your ankles during an attack.
     
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    I rented it too when it first came out. I wouldn't see it in the theatre, because there was no way I was going to spend 7 or 8 bucks to go see it, and I didn't want to be around all those anti sheeple. But in renting it I saw right through the lies, and have armed myself with info to rebute any anti that would use this as an argument for gun control. We do have to know what the "enemy" is putting forth in their arguments.

    This is not a documentary, and it is just propaganda for the far left. There is one good point, though, and it is how the media perpetuates a state of fear in the American public. Too bad Moore is in fact part of that media and perpetuates the problem himself. We need to tar and feather him, so to speak, in the media spotlight. And I hope that he does loose his Oscar.
     
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    I will not rent nor buy this drival Putting a $$ in his pocket is all he wants. Living live in the Columbine area for 14 years showed the inaccuracy of this film....moved about 90 days ago.
    Dan
     
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    It`ll probably be on one of the women`s channels on basic cable soon. Still won`t watch it. However, if it appears on the History Channel or True etc, there will be war! :cuss:
     
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    It is not the NRA's fault that more black men do not join. If black men wish to join, they can join. If any man, woman or child in this entire country wishes to join, they can. It is not my responsibility (me being "the white man" :barf: ) to show anyone anything. If some people ("the black man" :barf: ) hold ridiculous phobias about the motivations of entire other races (which is ridiculous in itself, that an entire race of humans are of one mind) that is their problem. People do not have to be given the spotlight, they only need to take it.

    There is no racism in this country, only racist people.

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    we all know moore to be a lying sack of doo-doo, but everyone else will continue to think he is a great person for revealing 'truths'. just the other day on the FX show 'niptuck', they referenced it by saying 'i watched a DOCUMENTARY recently in which a man named Marilyn Manson was asked what he would say to kids today, and he said 'i wouldnt say anything to them, i'd listen to what they have to say'.

    i downloaded BfC and couldnt even make it all the way through it. it was too frustrating to hear his belittlement of this country and its founders.
    "oh gee, the scaredycats were AFRAID of being oppressed so they fled like cowards to another country.
    then they were AFRAID of the indians so they killed as many as they could and took their land.
    then they were AFRAID to do any actual work so they enslaved africans.
    then they were AFRAID of the africans and the kkk was formed."
     
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    I'm with you, but I'd rather see you put it as "resist the government" or "resist government control."
     
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    Half the people at the ranges around here are Asian. Does that count? Moore is the one neglecting the non-white shooting population. He ought to come out to one of our IPSC matches, and bring a Tagalog interpreter :D
     
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    just tell him theres platters and platters of lumpei, he'd definitely show! so would i, for that matter. god i love lumpei! (spelling?)
     
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    I'm currently dowloading bfc since I both can't afford to even rent it, and i don't want to give the fat turd any income from me.

    and from the 15 minutes i have watched of the partal file sofar, I can only say that I wish the turd a very long and misrable life, If anyone thinks that he deserves a bullet between his eyes, I think not.

    He's not worth the cost of the bullet, & i don't think anyone would want to dirty a bullet on filth like him.
     
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    In this case, I'm thankful for media piracy. That tub of lying, commie lard didn't get a single red cent from me.
     
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    You're missing the point. Increasing black (and all the other shades of human pigment) membership in the NRA is a very politically sound move, and benefits the whole organization, not just the individuals. It's just good politics.

    Matt
     
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    Nightwatch - you like pain, don't you. ;) If it was for free, I'd see it but I wouldn't rent it. Glad you've an open mind to see it. Me, it has to be free so MM doesn't make a centavo off of me.
     
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    Matt, how would you suggest the NRA boost diversity ? Shooting sports are definitely a cultural gap that we do not share with minorities. My love for shooting was cultivated at a very young age from a man who's love for shooting started in much the same way (from his father). I do not discriminate, I will invite ANYONE to the range with the intention of teaching safety and handling procedures. I just don't get many black participants. :(
     
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    We can't force people to join.

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    As far as the NRA, I know that it is up to all minorities to join. They have to get involved. I just think that after watching this film (If you havent yet seen it than how can you make a determination on what I am saying) that if the NRA had an Asian or black or latino figure head, it would go a long way in showing the world that gun ownership in America is alive and well and here to stay. Something the LIBS would fear and tremble. :uhoh:

    Its just common sense. Minority gun owners dont want to be politically homeless. Put a face on it, AND THEY WILL COME. :D
     
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    So... Patton should not have read Rommel's book because ol' Erwin might've gotten a four-cent royalty? Hell, I watch TV preachers sometimes just for the pure amusement of their daffy company. I'm not sure that makes me a fan or a supporter. I watched "The Pianist" too because I heard it was good. Not bad, somewhat dry and slow. That doesn't mean Polanski's not a scumbag. I've read books by prisoners, fundamentalists, socialists and paranoid fanatics because I wanted to know how they thought, how they defended their positions and maybe even what led them to their beliefs. Heart surgeons don't avert their eyes from clogged arteries because they're "baaad, baaad." They study the problem to better understand how to fix or defeat it. Sheesh.
     
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