Break Free CLP vs LP
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loadedround
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Interesting question. I use quite a bit of CLP on my guns, both in liquid and aerosol cans. Never have used the LP variety since CLP itelf is available. Why not take advantage of all Breakfree's properties including (C)leaning. CLP is great stuff and more shooters should try it. 
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Theoretically anything with a solvent in it will be less effective as a lubricant. In actuality I think the main difference is that LP is rated to 1000F for protection and lube, I don't believe CLP has a listed temp rating.
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In theory, theory and practice are identical. In practice, they are different.
To answer your question without opinions, but with actual test data:
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html
It's not a matter of arguing. It is a matter of fact versus opinion. You have an opinion but you state it as if it were fact. Until you have data, it is not.
For my part, I have tried Weapon Shield, and I was not impressed at all. In my experience, it is another example of great marketing with little actual substance to back it up.
And for the record, that is my opinion
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orionengnr:
I'm not sure what you were testing for.
It is a fact that Weaponshield (fairly new product), Mobil One (full synthetic), SLIP 2000, SLIP EWL and several more products ALL last longer then CLP by a factor of 2-3X in actual use as a lubricant in AR 15 classes run by reputable trainers and have for several years.
In my experience CLP is good as a compromise product in particular for corrosion protection with residual lubrication.
Use whatever you want on your gear. I use Eezox for protection and Weaponshield for routine lubrication.
I'm not sure what you were testing for.
It is a fact that Weaponshield (fairly new product), Mobil One (full synthetic), SLIP 2000, SLIP EWL and several more products ALL last longer then CLP by a factor of 2-3X in actual use as a lubricant in AR 15 classes run by reputable trainers and have for several years.
In my experience CLP is good as a compromise product in particular for corrosion protection with residual lubrication.
Use whatever you want on your gear. I use Eezox for protection and Weaponshield for routine lubrication.
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Well, basically...any measurable benefit in function, corrosion resistance, or anything else.
Just wasn't there. And having bought four bottles of WeaponShield, I gave two away to friends who shoot a lot to see what they thought (same as I have done with Eezox and other products).
I guess their experience mirrored mine, because neither asked me to re-order more.
BTW, both have asked me to re-order Eezox several times, which I have. Note that I avoided any mention of it in my previous post, although since you mention it, that is my preferred product. Since I've started using Eezox, I don't need any "additional products".
Although in all honesty, I use Breakfree CLP for bore cleaning, powder removal, etc. If Eezox weren't so dang pricey I'd use it as a cleaner--I know it works just fine, as I've tried it. As it is, I'll use Breakfree as a cleaner, then use Eezox as a lubricant and protective.
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We are essentially of the same mind. Living in the Northeast US, I need a lighter synthetic for my Sig 210 and tight fitted 1911s when temps get below about 30*F. I have found WS good as a low temp lubricant. It is not very good in my exp for anything else.
FYI: I have been using Eezox since about 1994. I had the privilege of speaking with its inventor several times in that time period. He told me he was a retired Texaco engineer who specialized in high endurance turbine oils (the steam kind). He wanted a product that would have high corrosion protection, good resistance to water washout and good lubrication with a relatively dry film. I would say he succeed beyond his expectations.
He past away a few years ago. The man who now owns and runs the company is a chemical engineer and a family friend of the inventor. He told me he agrees with and intends to maintain the original company philosophy.
FYI: I have been using Eezox since about 1994. I had the privilege of speaking with its inventor several times in that time period. He told me he was a retired Texaco engineer who specialized in high endurance turbine oils (the steam kind). He wanted a product that would have high corrosion protection, good resistance to water washout and good lubrication with a relatively dry film. I would say he succeed beyond his expectations.
He past away a few years ago. The man who now owns and runs the company is a chemical engineer and a family friend of the inventor. He told me he agrees with and intends to maintain the original company philosophy.
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JohnBT
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"From strictly a lubing perspective is Break Free LP better than Break Free CLP?"
I have used both and think they're about the same. The cleaner in the CLP evaporates fairly quickly and that just leaves the LP.
Actually, I think the CLP is more useful because you can simply add more to a gunked up sluggish gun at the range or to a shotgun in the blind and the solvent/cleaner will loosen up the gunk and get the gun running.
My personal opinion is that 97% of the time any oil or light grease will do. A couple of drops off a vehicle dipstick will do.
I suppose if you're going to shoot thousands of rounds over 2 or 3 days and AREN'T ALLOWED TO RELUBE, well you might want to be picky about lubes.
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I have used both and think they're about the same. The cleaner in the CLP evaporates fairly quickly and that just leaves the LP.
Actually, I think the CLP is more useful because you can simply add more to a gunked up sluggish gun at the range or to a shotgun in the blind and the solvent/cleaner will loosen up the gunk and get the gun running.
My personal opinion is that 97% of the time any oil or light grease will do. A couple of drops off a vehicle dipstick will do.
I suppose if you're going to shoot thousands of rounds over 2 or 3 days and AREN'T ALLOWED TO RELUBE, well you might want to be picky about lubes.
John
Interesting. I'm investigating BreakFree because the Weaponshield I'm using seems to burn off rather quickly. I love it to death as a bore treatment. Cleanup is way quicker. But for the slide, it just doesn't seem to do the trick for very long.
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about the best thing i have found for lubing the slide is "slide glide." however, i also have used those synthetic fishing reel greases like "hot sauce" and they really do well too.
for general lubing and protection i am a die hard fan of CLP. ive tried about everything in the friggin world and i always come back to breakfree clp.
for general lubing and protection i am a die hard fan of CLP. ive tried about everything in the friggin world and i always come back to breakfree clp.
Prickett:
Weaponshield incorporates an EP (extreme pressure additive) that provides protection after the obvious oil film is exhausted. If you want a more enduring film try Mobile One 15-50 full synthetic.
I have no association with any company. I can only relate my own limited experience. I do however have a background in science and engineering.
Weaponshield incorporates an EP (extreme pressure additive) that provides protection after the obvious oil film is exhausted. If you want a more enduring film try Mobile One 15-50 full synthetic.
I have no association with any company. I can only relate my own limited experience. I do however have a background in science and engineering.
thebaldguy
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I use both. I use CLP as an all in one for a quick cleaning, but I prefer a solvent like Hoppe's for cleaning with LP for lube/protection.
Both work well as a lube.
Both work well as a lube.
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