Buffalo Bore ammunition

[BBQLS1]

Never used their stuff, but it's supposed to be pretty good. The problem is that any SAA replica (Colt, Vaquero, Uberti, Heritage...) should only be used with the original spec ammo. For .45 Colt, compared to today, that's pretty weak stuff. BB seems to be more for something like a Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk which is heavy duty.

Oh, there is a difference between the Vaquero and the "New Vaquero"

 

[stinger 327]

Never used their stuff, but it's supposed to be pretty good. The problem is that any SAA replica (Colt, Vaquero, Uberti, Heritage...) should only be used with the original spec ammo. For .45 Colt, compared to today, that's pretty weak stuff. BB seems to be more for something like a Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk which is heavy duty.

Oh, there is a difference between the Vaquero and the "New Vaquero"

Well how about using BB in a Glock or a S & W K frame revolver?? (Mod. 66 .357 stainless revolver is a K frame?).

 

[stinger 327]

What I find interesting is that they offer the .357 in different weights bullet grains like 125, 158 and 180 yet how do you know which one is best and for what application? I believe that 125 grain is rated at 1,800 fps and over 700 ME lbs per sq. ft. that's HOT and sold out.

Ditto for the .45 ACP +P 230 gr. 950 fps in FMJ and hollow point, 200 grains, 1,100 fps hollow point and a 185 grain that is the highest in velocity-can't remember at the moment but it is the highest since it's the lightest in that caliber. There could also be a 165 grain .45 ACP +P which would be the fastest of all the .45 BB. So how do you know which one to use for what applications?

 

[indiandave]

I use Buffalo Bore .38 158gr LSWCHP standard pressure in my carry guns. It has a kick to it but not as bad as the remington FBI load. They say it's safe in older guns. I've fired a lot of them in a model 36 made in 1962 and a 10-6 from 1970. works fine.

I have arthritis in my thumb joint and have had Carpal Tunnel surgery on my shooting hand so I've never tried their heavy duty stuff. Makes my hand hurt just thinking about it.

 

[atomd]

A lot of cartridges have such a wide range of loadings and sometimes the store bought stuff is at the low end of the spectrum. Just look at 10mm and .45 Colt as an example. A lot of the 10mm sold is barely hotter than a .40S&W. .45 Colt has such a wide range...they sell cowboy loads so why not sell hotter ones too? I don't regularly buy their products but I think it's good to have a choice like that out there, for either hunting or self defense..or just for fun.

 

[jr4521]

I had the unpleasant experience of firing a 340 grain +p BB 44 mag out of my 3 inch Smith and Wesson. I have no issues with up to 300 grains ,but this 340 was very rough. I will save the rest for my bigger 44s!

 

[stinger 327]

Hey IndianDan I know exactly how you feel as I had CTS in my hands.

 

[stinger 327]

A lot of cartridges have such a wide range of loadings and sometimes the store bought stuff is at the low end of the spectrum. Just look at 10mm and .45 Colt as an example. A lot of the 10mm sold is barely hotter than a .40S&W. .45 Colt has such a wide range...they sell cowboy loads so why not sell hotter ones too? I don't regularly buy their products but I think it's good to have a choice like that out there, for either hunting or self defense..or just for fun.

But with what bullet weight do you go with in self-defense loads? The heavier slower bullets or the faster lighter bullets?

 

[stinger 327]

I use Buffalo Bore .38 158gr LSWCHP standard pressure in my carry guns. It has a kick to it but not as bad as the remington FBI load. They say it's safe in older guns. I've fired a lot of them in a model 36 made in 1962 and a 10-6 from 1970. works fine.

I have arthritis in my thumb joint and have had Carpal Tunnel surgery on my shooting hand so I've never tried their heavy duty stuff. Makes my hand hurt just thinking about it.

Hey IndianDan I know exactly how you feel as I had CTS in my hands.

 

[TYY]

I'm not sure what state you are in, but I am not aware of any major gun control laws "coming out". There is a lot of sensationalist fear and speculation regarding gun laws. However, in reality, gun owners are breaking ground lately when it comes to gun rights.

Come to California and see what's going on here. Coming changes here have prompted me to consider reloading.

 

[BBQLS1]

Well how about using BB in a Glock or a S & W K frame revolver?? (Mod. 66 .357 stainless revolver is a K frame?).

Should be okay, they have warnings on their site for those that wouldn't work.


My point was, those older SAA designs were for a .45 Colt cartridge where the slug will travel pretty slow due to relatively low pressure compared to today.

 

[Defense Minister]

I don't see anything wrong with Buffalo Bore's loadings, but I can buy factory loads that are almost as hot as their stuff from doubletapammo.com, and I get 50 rounds for little more than I'd pay for 20 from Buffalo Bore.

 

[Rock185]

I have used both 10MM and .357 BB ammo. Both very energetic loadings. 180 .357 BB averaged 1400+ fps from both my 5" N and 4" L frame S&Ws. 10mm 180 grain averaged 1300+ fps from my S&W 1026. Both functioned 100%, primers looked normal and the cases extracted easily. I like it but, expensive. Looks like Double Tap has similar ballistics for less money.. Had .357 / 180 Double Tap on order for Months from Midway, never became available, finally gave up.

 

[Superlite27]

Keep in mind this wouldn't be shooting the ammo on a regular basis like at the range but the purpose would be for personal protection.

I don't plan on moving to Arizona anytime soon, so I'm not likely to use my Vaquero for a carry gun.

Anyone else here use a Vaquero for a CCW, or just you Arizonans?

I'm sticking to my 1911's. I consider the Vaquero "range only", but if I ever did use it for PP, I'd load it with Buffalo Bore and throw it at my attacker.

Maybe he'd try and shoot me with it and blow his arm off.

 

[stinger 327]

California is a whole new different problem with many problems when it comes to guns. The governor signed the bill to restrict sales of ammo and will make it so your ammo is registered like you are the criminal and also put some type of identifiers on the bullets to keep track of who bought it. I can only see this causing prices of ammo to sky rocket and make it an even more expensive hobby with no right to protect yourself. We currently already have an ammo shortage. Lots of empty shelves of hand gun ammo are all gone from different gun shops and sporting goods stores like Big 5, Sports Authority and Wal-Mart.
If you do find someone selling hand gun ammo they are taking advantage of the situation of jacking the price way way up.
Only the criminals have rights to protect themselves and have any kind of guns they want.

 

[stinger 327]

I have used both 10MM and .357 BB ammo. Both very energetic loadings. 180 .357 BB averaged 1400+ fps from both my 5" N and 4" L frame S&Ws. 10mm 180 grain averaged 1300+ fps from my S&W 1026. Both functioned 100%, primers looked normal and the cases extracted easily. I like it but, expensive. Looks like Double Tap has similar ballistics for less money.. Had .357 / 180 Double Tap on order for Months from Midway, never became available, finally gave up.

I want to get some of that 180 grain .357 BB ammo those are pretty powerful specs.
But there is another BB load in .357 that is 125 grain that is near 1,800 fps and 700 or 800 ME sq. ft. lbs. Now that is fast. They are sold out of that ammo right now.

 

[akodo]

Well how about using BB in a Glock or a S & W K frame revolver?? (Mod. 66 .357 stainless revolver is a K frame?).

their +P stuff, use it in any +P rated firearm

+P+ stuff, I'd not use it in a glock!

their 357 'heavy' loads don't exceed standard SAAMI peak pressure, so use it in any conventional 357 revolver

 

[stinger 327]

Don't use in a Glock?

 

[Flyboy]

they are not worth their money. if you want a more powerful bullet buy a more powerful gun caliber. i use all standard loads in all of my pistols. it aint worth it to destroy your gun over trying to make it more powerful.

My 1895G (.45-70) is quite stout enough to handle modern loads, thank you very much. Garden-variety commercial loads are soft enough to be safe in trapdoor Springfields, but my rifle is capable of much more (we'll not even get into the Ruger No. 1 here).

The rifle and caliber are quite capable and sufficiently powerful; it's just a matter of finding loads that aren't softened to the lowest common denominator. Buffalo Bore provides that.

 

[stinger 327]

My 1895G (.45-70) is quite stout enough to handle modern loads, thank you very much. Garden-variety commercial loads are soft enough to be safe in trapdoor Springfields, but my rifle is capable of much more (we'll not even get into the Ruger No. 1 here).

The rifle and caliber are quite capable and sufficiently powerful; it's just a matter of finding loads that aren't softened to the lowest common denominator. Buffalo Bore provides that.

Why not take that extra edge if you can get it without having to buy a new gun. This gives one a whole variety of different loads for one caliber.

 

[stinger 327]

their +P stuff, use it in any +P rated firearm

+P+ stuff, I'd not use it in a glock!

their 357 'heavy' loads don't exceed standard SAAMI peak pressure, so use it in any conventional 357 revolver

The Buffalo load in 9mm is 1,400 FPS
.45 185 grain 1100 fps
.45 230 grain 950 fps
.357-1,700 or 1,800 fps with ME of 800 lbs. per sq. ft.

 

[stinger 327]

Is this a coincidence or what?
I notice that Corbon and Buffalo Bore on some of their bullets with the same caliber and weight in grains have exactly the same velocity and muzzle energy like the 230 grain .45 and there is caliber too.