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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Mustang51, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Mustang51

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    My younger son and I are shooting partners and compete in vintage military matches together. Last fall we decided to begin building a couple of budget precision rifles. This plan was sparked, in part, by Brownell's sale on Howa barrelled actions.

    My son decided to go real budget and selected a 24" #6 barrelled action in .308, ($249). While he was deciding on a chassis, MDT put their LSS chassis on sale ($240), so that decided the issue. He recently completed the project with a stock tube and Magpul stock that I had laying around. I lent him a Bushnell 6-24x50 Elite Tactical FFP scope with a G2 reticle.

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    Hoping to shoot it this week end.
     
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  2. dh1633pm

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    Good work. Scope worth more than the rifle. Can't wait for the update on how it shoots.
     
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  3. horsemen61

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    Let’s see some groups
     
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  4. Varminterror

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    What does it weigh, all in? How do you like shooting that carbine stock off of a rear bag? Going to shoot any matches, or paper punching or banging steel for fun?
     
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  5. Walkalong

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    Very cool.
     
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    I love to see budget builds. It's not hard if you spend lots of money. Takes talent to do it on the cheap. It's fun to find value in things that others miss. Good luck!
     
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  7. Mustang51

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    Thanks, guys. We haven't shot these rifles yet.

    I decided to go with the 24" #6 barrelled action in 6.5 Creedmoor. ($389). I was able to get a small discount on an KRG Bravo chassis ($420) and am intending to use a March Optics 3-24x42 scope that I picked up at an estate sale last spring.

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  8. Wreck-n-Crew
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    Looks like you may be on your way to some nice groups! Live the build idea as opposed to buying something. Maybe its the stingy in me? ( really its.the budget).

    Im slowly working my way through a build. Not a real long range build but capable in its own right.

    Started with a Savage 12FV in 308 with a 26" heavy varmint barrel. Shoots pretty good as is and I have managed an average .5-.6" average with hand loads so far. Smallest group was 1/3 MOA. But my cheek weld was never there and I cant get much of a weld. I shoot off bags.

    I topped it off with a knockoff 6-224x50 SFP scope that i had on a basic hunting rifle and is surprisingly clear and functional. Being able to adjust the parallax is a plus.

    Added a sunshade and ordered some flip up caps. I used Weaver 2 piece 20 MOA base. Went with some UTG rings that have the scope hovering over the barrel 1/2"or less.

    Just now got around to buying a pull off Savage stealth chassis ( made by MDT). Ordered 2 of the 10 round mags. Got a bipod but I think for now I will stick with bags.

    Only drawback to the 10BA Stealth Chassis as far as functionality IMHO is the stock. Doesn't fit the form for a rear bag. Not sure what i may go with for a stock. Couple of options besides the MDT offerings like the Magpul PRS gen3 or Luth-AR MBA1. One other stock which is pretty nice and not plastic but cant remember off the top of my head who makes it.

    Its been fun. Really started off as a 100yd paper puncher. In the end it may see 500 but not on a regular basis. I don't have a fever quite like that.

    Don't forget an update when you get some rounds down range!
     
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  9. Mustang51

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    Sounds like you have yourself a tack driver, Wreck-in-Crew.

    The stock that my son is using now is temporary. We've got several options. I've got an unused Magpul PRS gen3 and a Seekins ProComp 10X.

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    The only issue with them is that they require an adapter for the LSS chassis that adds 3/4 of an inch to an already fairly long LOP. I suggested a Luth AR carbine stock to him (I have a rifle Luth AR stock on my 6.5 Grendel AR rifle), but he doesn't think the cheek rest is solid enough.
     
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  10. Varminterror

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    What I did/do not like about the MDT LSS chassis are the exceptionally short forend and light weight. A spigot type rail can add a few inches, but it’s still short for stability on a bipod. Same deal for the light weight. It’s meant as a minimalist chassis for a shorter barreled rifle, more of a modern hunter than a precision match rifle chassis. Buttstocks can be added which ride bags better than others.
     
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  11. Mustang51

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    I don't disagree with you about the MDT LSS chassis. It is definitely minimalist.

    The frustrating thing is that MDT just came out with their Oryx chassis, which is longer and includes the butt stock for $399 and it looks good.

    https://oryxchassis.com/oryx-bolt-action-rifle-chassis.html
     
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    I thought you just needed to use the proper Buffer tube on the PRS with all the standard ar15 attachments ? Quote from Savageshooters.com website: The Magpul Gen 3 PRS has 2 adapters on the butt stock allowing for 2 options one is for the round tube the other is for the keyed that is on the Stealth, if you buy a mil-spec tube it will slide right on and because it is keyed it will not spin. view below photo, mil spec is .020" smaller in diameter, I had to sand out the inside of my Magpul Gen 3 to allow it to fit over the Commercial tube because it was larger.
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    You will see when it comes in but the adapter they show on the MDT site is not needed to install on a Stealth, it just has cleaner lines if you use it, but it also increases length by 3/4". The LOP without extra 3/4" adapter is 15" to 16.5"
    So it can be done without the $50 Adapter, but I do recommend the Mil-Spec tube.

    Any how here is a great alternative I have considered ( found it after I posted about not remembering it...figures.lol) the XLR extreme buttstock.. https://xlrindustries.com/collections/buttstocks/products/extreme-butt-stock
     
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  13. Varminterror

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    I bought an XLR on Black Friday, really good quality. More detailed write up to come soon.
     
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  14. RussellC

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    Seriously eyeballing this one! Waiting to see if Varminterror comments on it!

    I am looking for something like this for my 12FV rifles, one in .223 and one in .308.

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  15. Varminterror

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    I haven’t touched the Oryx yet, but I’m expecting to see one soon once our match season starts, and will thoroughly molest it once I get eyes on, ASAP! Lol!

    At first blush, I might wish the forend was flat from the barricade stop to the tip, but it appears to have a compound ramp. This would really only be to accommodate an ARCA rail, which COULD have been integrated into the design.

    I also heard they don’t readily accept metal AI mags, which is a big let down. There is chatter on the Hide which says it can be made to take them though.

    The LSS wasn’t a bad chassis, it’s a great product. It just wasn’t well suited for precision rifle competition. I think their new Oryx is a contender for match shooting, solid competition with the KRG Bravo chassis/stock in the budget friendly PR chassis class.
     
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    As precision rifles go that's a good looking one. Let us know how it works out.

    After seeing the second one I like it too. Let us know about both.
     
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  17. RussellC

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    Thanks, for my purposes it may very well be fine.

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    Im looking forward to that writeup.
     
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  19. Mustang51

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    I'll post a range report
     
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    Looks like a winner. I like that vertical group! Are you using a bipod on that one?
     
  21. Mustang51

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    The problem is that without the adapter, the sharp edge of the PRS stock digs into the web of your hand while using the pistol grip.
     
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