Bulk ammo in rifle

[shevrock]

I was wondering if you can put bulk military 30-06 [7.62x51?] in a hunting rifle[actual 30-06]. I only ask this because of problems people have reported with putting 5.56 in a .223 rifle.

two other questions. Is their a cheap 30-06 lever? second is if a bolt action gun will work for getting rid of willy coyotes [ ] in the middle of the night.

 

[Deckard]

If you were talking about putting military 7.62x51 into a rifle chambered for .308 you might have a problem. .30-06 is .30-06.

 

[shevrock]

oh. I thought 30-06 was 7.62x51.....*feels retarded*.

Okay. so you can' put bulk x51 into a .308? Is it a pressure thing like the 5.56/.223

 

[Deckard]

They should be safely interchangeable. I have heard that there is a pressure difference, but that could just be some loose talk. I don't own a rifle in .308 so I'm not sure.

 

[springfield30-06]

I'm confused - Which round are you talking about?

7.62 x 51mm = .308

7.62 X 63mm = .30-06

 

[Hoppy590]

as Springfield said above.

7.62 X 63mm = .30-06

7.62X51 = .308

 

[Deer Hunter]

Yes they are interchangable.

Only times where it is a problem is in some old mil-surp rifles that wont last long when using hot loaded .308 Win.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I'm confused - Which round are you talking about?

7.62 x 51mm = .308

7.62 X 63mm = .30-06

in either case it's completely safe to fire either in a commercial rifle of the contemporary equivalent chambering.

Going the other way and shooting commercial ammo in a military rifle however is very bad practice, particularly in the case of the M1 Garand

 

[Deus Machina]

Anyway, that cleared up, there is milsurp .30-06, IIRC. Most of it right now is... Greek? Dunno, not one of my calibers.

 

[mljdeckard]

I have interchanged a lot of ammo between bolt rifles and M1as, never had a problem. Same with Garands and bolt rifles.

 

[cbrgator]

You can get all the milsurp 30-06 you want from the CMP.

 

[shevrock]

Will a 30-06 bolt gun work on coyotes? I'm not talking if the bullets good enough, I'm talking about the actual bolt action. I've been shooting at coyotes for the past 3 weeks,and was hoping my future deer rifle will be able to take care of them.

Lever in 30-06 available anywhere?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Will a 30-06 bolt gun work on coyotes? I'm not talking if the bullets good enough, I'm talking about the actual bolt action.

Why would it matter? I assure you that the yote you nail with an 06 will be the last being to worry about the action used

Lever in 30-06 available anywhere?

Browning BLR

however it has about as much in common with a "leveraction" as a Camry has with an c130

Both have levers that operate the action and use rifled barrels

and both have tires and use windshield wipers when it rains respectively

 

[shevrock]

WOW. I looked up the BLR. i think your descriptions right with the camry and the c13 description. WHY would you want a lever action with that kind of box magazine. Though if it had a bigger magazine capacity it would remind me somewhat of the knoxx sidewinder for the Mossberg 500.

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[dmazur]

Is their a cheap 30-06 lever?

Not that I'm aware of. The most common has already been mentioned, the Browning BLR.

Winchester (and Browning) have made reproductions of the Winchester 1895 in .30-06 which have modern steel receivers. These are no longer manufactured, but you can find them on sale occasionally for $1400-1600 or so. (You should be careful of some original 1895's in .30-06 -- the steel wasn't as good and the bolts can actually shorten from extended use, resulting in unsafe headspace. At least, I read a report that claimed this could occur.)

If you think the BLR looks funny, you should see a 1895. It has a built-in box magazine, one of the first lever-actions to be able to handle spitzer (pointed) bullets, which were coming into favor for military use at that time.

Anyway, that's the general answer to why you would want a lever action with a box magazine. Until Hornady's recent Leverolution ammo, you couldn't use spitzer bullets in a lever-action, due to the danger of detonating primers on recoil. (Or dropping the rifle...) The box magazine designs, while ugly, were functional.