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I started using the Bully adapter bullet feeder setup using a Hornady bullet feeder die for .357, and it worked without issue with lead bullets at .358, although stamped .357. So now I get a die for .452 lead bullets in 45 ACP and the die is an absolute no-go, stamped .451. Packed it for return. Any other ideas?

I am aware that Hornady says their bullet feeder is for jacketed and plated only, i.e. not oversized. I am only referring to the die needed for the Bully adapter.
 
Please try the mr bullet feeder dropper die sold by double alpha. They are VASTLY superior to the hornady junk die. Works with any shaped or diameter bullet in a given caliber. Ingenious design, simple and effective. You'll likely abandon your other hornady feed dies after trying one.
 
My Hornady die works fine in.357. It doesn't look or work like junk.This .451 is just the wrong diameter for lead, and I will have to consider other sources like your suggestion. Are you saying the die you like works for lead bullets?
 
My Hornady dropper die works fine but I have never used it with cast, same goes for my KISS (what they were called before mrbulletfeeder), the only ones I use with cast bullets are my GSI feeders but they only make them for Dillon presses.

You might search for "Hornady die modifications cast bullets" there are some out there that have tinkered with them.
 
The day I turn my Hornady into a "MUTT" like the Dillon boys do is the day I quite loading. I don't know if you saw my video Of me loading 100 rounds in aprox 6 min. But that was done with a Hornady bullet feeder. Why. Because I am smart enough to set it up right. Oh I feed 380, 9mm 40 and 45 pistol all with no problem. I all so feed .223, 308, and 30-06 rifle. Again with no problem.
When Mr. bullet feeder comes out with a press let me know.
 
The day I turn my Hornady into a "MUTT" like the Dillon boys do is the day I quite loading. I don't know if you saw my video Of me loading 100 rounds in aprox 6 min. But that was done with a Hornady bullet feeder. Why. Because I am smart enough to set it up right. Oh I feed 380, 9mm 40 and 45 pistol all with no problem. I all so feed .223, 308, and 30-06 rifle. Again with no problem.
When Mr. bullet feeder comes out with a press let me know.
If you weren't using lead bullets, your rant is a bit off the mark here. It is not even about the bullet feeder machine, only the die for the Bully adapter.
 
I don't know if you saw my video Of me loading 100 rounds in aprox 6 min. But that was done with a Hornady bullet feeder. Why. Because I am smart enough to set it up right.
I wasn't smart enough to set up my Hornady bullet feeder die to work without jamming, so I bought a MBF die. It's a breeze to adjust, even for a dummy, and it hasn't missed a lick yet.
 
I don't know if you saw my video Of me loading 100 rounds in aprox 6 min. But that was done with a Hornady bullet feeder. Why. Because I am smart enough to set it up right.

If you can "set it up right" you can cut two min off the time and a few hundred dollars off the equipment.



Then again we are still not talking about what the OP is trying to do.
 
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I love hornady and use their products, however please fellows don't succumb to Stockholm syndrome about these Hornady dies. They are beautifully made. They might not seem like junk in your hand, but they will the instant you compare them with the MBF version for several reasons. One being that the Hornady die uses the case to release only one bullet on to the mouth of the case. The MBF die actually uses the whole column of bullets weight to push the bullet being dropped into the case. Depending on where the cutoff switch is this could be several ounces of lead pushing down on the bullet as it's being dropped on the case. So, it has a lot better "stick" to help it on its way to the next station without tipping.

Oh, and then there's the coated bullet or lubed lead issue...

Best way to explain the way they work is to imagine a compressed air quick connect fitting. They use those ball bearings to positively lock the fitting together? That's how the bullet is retained. Now imagine holding your air tools on with a hornady type finger collet thing. Nope.

Sorry if I'm insulting to some but I'm just trying to save a few souls the frustration of setting up that engineering fail of a device.

As far as being smarter than the die, well, maybe I'm not but I tried enough variables in my setup to eliminate a heck of a lot of potential causes and never got it anywhere near reliable. In fact, at one point I reversed the collets inside the die like actually pointing them backwards and additionally swapped their positions and to my surprise the results were about exactly the same as the factory recommended assembly. I also bent on them and polished them and sanded on them. Finally, I recycled them. :)
 
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If you can "set it up right" you can cut two min off the time and a few hundred dollars off the equipment.



Then again we are still not talking about what the OP is trying to do.

So Mr. Morris are we going to give up our presses and go lee? I just wish I could make a video as good as he did.
 
I love hornady and use their products, however please fellows don't succumb to Stockholm syndrome about these Hornady dies. They are beautifully made. They might not seem like junk in your hand, but they will the instant you compare them with the MBF version for several reasons. One being that the Hornady die uses the case to release only one bullet on to the mouth of the case. The MBF die actually uses the whole column of bullets weight to push the bullet being dropped into the case. Depending on where the cutoff switch is this could be several ounces of lead pushing down on the bullet as it's being dropped on the case. So, it has a lot better "stick" to help it on its way to the next station without tipping.

Oh, and then there's the coated bullet or lubed lead issue...

Best way to explain the way they work is to imagine a compressed air quick connect fitting. They use those ball bearings to positively lock the fitting together? That's how the bullet is retained. Now imagine holding your air tools on with a hornady type finger collet thing. Nope.

Sorry if I'm insulting to some but I'm just trying to save a few souls the frustration of setting up that engineering fail of a device.

As far as being smarter than the die, well, maybe I'm not but I tried enough variables in my setup to eliminate a heck of a lot of potential causes and never got it anywhere near reliable. In fact, at one point I reversed the collets inside the die like actually pointing them backwards and additionally swapped their positions and to my surprise the results were about exactly the same as the factory recommended assembly. I also bent on them and polished them and sanded on them. Finally, I recycled them. :)
Have you successfully used the MBF with lead bullets, with which there can be a lube ring, coating, or coat of alox or the like? And again, I am only wondering about what passes through the die, the only bullet feeder part, other than the Lee tube assembly, on which the Bully adapter relies.
 
So Mr. Morris are we going to give up our presses and go lee? I just wish I could make a video as good as he did.

I have quite a bit of Lee equipment but that's the only Lee progressive press I have owned. It now belongs to another member here. I wouldn't say they are the most fool proof press made but they are also not the most expensive and while you don't always get what you pay for, you always pay for what you get.

Back to the OP, here is a 3 part series on how to get your Hornady die to work with cast bullets.

 
Have you successfully used the MBF with lead bullets, with which there can be a lube ring, coating, or coat of alox or the like? And again, I am only wondering about what passes through the die, the only bullet feeder part, other than the Lee tube assembly, on which the Bully adapter relies.
Yes I have. It will feed anything even remotely bullet shaped.
 
I'm glad you guys are happy, but I think I'll stick with the bullet seater Dillon sent me.....

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Am advised by Bully Adapter that they can make one to fit the smaller OD of the MBF die (same price, I believe). I think I will keep the Hornady as-is, since I do actually have a couple thousand Zero FMJ stashed. Seems like I always need just one more thing for my reloading, but I will go ahead and order the MBF die and another Bully adapter to match. You only need one adapter to move among various caliber dies, but it has to match the diameter of the brand of the dies.
 
The Red and White Dillon Bullet feeder looks like it might an expensive and high maintenance item.
Happy with my Hornady bullet feeder in 9mm it works well on my Hornady mutt uses some Lee dies.
But I might look into the MBF for the next one.
I found coated bullets feed fine, were the lead lubed ones worked but not as well as coated or plated. (I load mostly load plated)
 
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