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Bump Fire Stock

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SkinnyGrey, Jan 30, 2011.

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  1. SkinnyGrey

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    Assuming you don't have a bayonet lug or FS, I see not why it would violate a AWB.

    But with 10-round mags...why would you want one?
     
  3. SkinnyGrey

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    would you only legally be able to use it with a ten round mag?
     
  4. nwilliams

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    OK I've always thought bump firing was kinda silly because it just seems like just a waste of ammo but I have to say that thing is pretty nifty.

    However for $300 it's not that cool.
     
  5. 451 Detonics

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    I just gotta wonder if it would function well with a .22 such as the S&W 1522
     
  6. M-Cameron

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    i see no reason why this wouldnt be legal......

    law says only one bullet per trigger pull......never says how fast you can pull the trigger.....this is no different than being able to pull the trigger really fast.


    just so long as you follow the standard rifle laws in your state...you should be fine.
     
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    (except bumpfire stocks)
     
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    Humm. Interesting. Don't know but I think alot of ranges would frown on this IMO.
     
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    Some ranges' insurance companies frown on simulated full-auto, full-auto or (get this) semi-auto with a select fire weapon. Some ranges if you can't get insurance, you cannot stay open.

    Scenario this: A Beretta Model 38 submachinegun set up for the 9mm M38 (An Italian +P+ version of 9mm Parabellum) can "run away" with 9mm Glisenti: the lighter load will not blow the bolt back far enough to catch on the sear, but will eject, feed and fire until the magazine is empty like the infamous "sputter gun" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputter_Gun .

    Some insurance companies see all full autos as potential run-aways, even on semi-auto. They also see simulated full-auto (bump fire, "Hellfire switch", etc) as potential uncontrolled unaimed fire situations with a potential of collateral damage.
     
  10. jmorris

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    If it works the ATF will call it a machine gun. Google atkins accelerator or AW Sim to look at once legal bump fire devices they have decided are now machine guns after they approved them
     
  11. hounddog

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    Just got one in last week to play with. Shipping was fast, problem free. Ordered on Sunday, here by Thursday. Sent US mail. Instructions are easy to follow. Very simple and elegant design. Went out in blizzard and shot 70 rds through it. It works quite well. 3-4 round bursts very easy to pull off and controllable. Had it on a bushmaster m4gery. I felt with a drop down forward grip, would have been easier to handle and operate. Will not work with a 22. Not enough recoil to do what it needs to do. Will the ATF eventually outlaw it? Who knows what logic the ATF is using or going to use. I am pretty sure there is no logic. But, if you want to play with a full auto-esque gun, without spending 13-20k on a real one, or joing the military, it is a pretty good option for an m16 like experience that at present time is legal.

    My choice of weapons are not always based on utility. Alot of them are about uniqueness and fun toys. This is a fun toy. The guy who designed this is also working on an AK version. That should be another fun toy.

    If the ATF does declare them machine guns, the rear pin holding the stock to the buffer tube could be pinned, or space behind buffer tube filled in, making it no longer functional. But another 300 stock to add to your collection.
     
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    The only part of the Akins stock that was outlawed was the spring. All purchasers were supposed to mail in their springs or face charges. I can't see how this stock is too much different than an Akins without the spring.
     
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    I saw one at the last HGCA gun show, appeared well made. The price is high, but its 1/10th the price of the cheapest actual full auto you can find, and only $100 more that the price of your tax stamp for an SBR or a can.

    IMHO If you don't have a place to shoot full auto, no point in buying one of these. I might get one, would be a lot of fun on the 9mm Carbine I have SBR paperwork in the pipeline. Shooting 9mm reloads with such a thing would be no more wasteful than setting off firecrackers when you get down to it.
     
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    would i not be legally able to use it with a 30 rnd magazine?
     
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    Are 30 round magazines legal to own where you are?
     
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    My neighbor has one. It works great. It is as close to aimed bump fire as you can get. It is expensive and I doubt if I would get one if I had an AR.....chris3
     
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    I know this is an old post, but here are the answers.

    I went to the range Saturday with a friend who had one on his AR-15. It actually came with a letter from BATFE stating it as legal. It's amazingly easy to use. It took us both about 15 rounds to figure it out. It really will unload an entire 30 round magazine in a single "bump". It's definately cool and a lot cheaper than owning a real fully automatic rifle. However, 30 rounds in 1.5 seconds is a bit too rich for me.

    Ryan
     
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    Hmmm...while $300 is a ridiculous price, I can certainly afford it. My only thought is as to how long this will remain legal, and what happens if it is outlawed. Would owners be grandfathered in? Have to send them in, losing their "investment" in the process?
     
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    Depending on state law it may not be legal where you are. Minnesota it isn't legal for instance.

    "The following persons may own or possess a machine gun or machine gun conversion kit or trigger activating device increasing the rate of fire to that of a machine gun or a shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches or an overall length of less than 26 inches:"

    Warden, Police etc are on the list but no regular pesons.
     
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    Your finger activates the trigger on these, not the stock....chris3
     
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    I can afford $300 for a simulated happy switch, hell I've blown more money on dumber stuff.
     
  23. Robert

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    Not saying that it would not be fun. But I would never spend that kind of money for something that will make my rifle less accurate. I guess I just don't get it. If it is your thing then that is fine, it is just not mine cup of tea.
     
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    I am 60 years old and buying single shots.

    When I was 14 I shot a belt fed M60 and that was exiting for a kid.


    Now I am old, and like to aim.
     
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    I like accuracy and hitting your target as well. That said, it's fun to (just once in a while) make a lot of noise and rattle off rounds at the cyclic rate of the gun for a magazine or two.
    I'll be surprised if this doesn't get banned by the ATF like the atkins stock did. Everytime someone finds some sort of full auto "loophole" they close it.
     
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