Bush Guard Commander Recants AWOL Charge

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

Malone LaVeigh:

I thought I'd respond to his ad homenium attack with something other than a counter insult. Guess I was counting on a little more reading comprehension than was available.

I don't believe I made any ad hominem attack. In fact I was objecting to another posters regular ad hominem attacks against me and others, and objecting in general to that persons conduct.

I was not directing my comments at you or W4rma.

Or is "troll" just anyone that doesn't fit his stereotype about gun owners

No, a troll in my estimation would be someone; who continues to harp on a thread that ended for everyone else weeks ago; who constantly throws out accustations of lying; who makes repeated snide baiting insults to try and keep an argument going; who does this while following others from thread to thread; all to satisfy a very childish need for attention. I almost feel sorry for anyone like that. It must genuinely suck to be them, living a "life" where something as trivial in reality as an internet forum has such apparent importance.

And where exactly have I stereotyped gun owners? To the best of my recollection we have gay, straight, male, female, young, old, white, black, asian, hispanic, rightwing, leftwing, etc. on THR.

 

[HunterGatherer]

That being said, however, I would like to know how much time w4rma has spent in the United States military, either Active or Reserve Component.

Hang in there LawDog! I'm sure he'll post his DD214 any minute now. *chuckle*

I don't think that paperwork means what w4rma thinks it means...

Sean, you are killin' me dude!

 

[yayarx7]

I would like to clear up a few things that seem to be misunderstood here about AFIs (Air Force Instructions). There is a large difference in reality and AFIs. Note that they used to be AFRs, for regulations, now they are simply instructions. In the AFI if I am to report in to drill at 0700 on the scheduled drill weekend, then at 0700:05 I am AWOL. In reality I am probably not even late enough for anyone to notice. In the AFIs if I feel a bit under the weather and call up my supervisor and say I am not going to be there for drill I am AWOL. In reality it is all good and they probably are happy I bothered to call. Note this only applies to Air Guard, the Army Guard sends out MPs to drag your butt to drill. In the AFIs you are charged when you do not bother to show up for drill, in reality you get a phone call and maybe a letter. Then maybe after a year or two they discharge you, dishonorably.

So the man took the year off. Get over it. Find something else. Find a girl on the side. Dig up his past drug use. Mention his spending. Toss in the Patriot Act. Just drop this one. It is not winnable.

Besides, I bet he kept all his medals.

 

[agricola]

ah,

So now we get to the nub of things.

Coolhand, its important to look back to that thread because it illustrates that something that is posted by yourself has a rather good chance of being wrong. I would also like to draw your attention to the ad hominem attack you believe I made:

so has proof been found that Bush reported in?

Which merited a response of:

It's not my decision. Oleg Volk owns this forum. He and the moderators decide whose participation is desired. At times it seems that their forebearance toward one poster is misplaced, albiet understandable from the standpoint of forebearance towards the mentally ill. Luckily, the ignore button always does the trick in dealing with that poster who seemingly can't rise above wallowing in childish taunts and insults, let alone offer an informed opinion on gun ownership.

Oh, and as it happens, I am not the one who pressed the "report post" button more than once, so I guess I can't care as much as some about winning or losing debates.

 

[Jonesy9]

Bush lied

Why did Bush lie about releasing his military records yesterday on Meet the Press? He refused to release them in 2000 but claimed yesterday he did.


MR. RUSSERT: Would you authorize the release of everything to settle this?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, absolutely.

We did so in 2000, by the way.



So now we'll see if the press can follow up on this and hold him to it.


I have no problem with Bush pulling strings to dodge Vietnam, he's an elite and likely would have been hurt by his own troops for incompetence. He did what he needed to do to stay alive. I'm sure some one filled his spot and took up the slack.

the Newsmax article is garbage, I can't belive any one can take it seriously. LOL!


Bottom line, we still know that Bush got out of his commitment early but we don't know if he was AWOL for a year. We don't know why he skipped medical exams that got him banned from flying.

I've heard of other people who did not finish their committments but still got honorable discharges. I think Bush had the pull to get that done. Either way, the jury is still out on this issue.

 

[GSB]

I have no problem with Bush pulling strings to dodge Vietnam, he's an elite and likely would have been hurt by his own troops for incompetence.

I'm so glad that the disposition toward juvenile character assassination popularized by DemocraticUnderground has made way over to The "High" Road.

 

[Shooter 2.5]

GSB,
I've noticed more Bush Bashing as the election is closer. At least Bush is proud that he served and honors the men and women in uniform His role as Commander in chief has saved countless lives. We were even concerned about the lives of the enemy. We liberated Afghanstan, Iraq and are disarming Libya. That's three for three.

The bottom line is the dems are still the party of the Jane Fonda's and Chicago Seven. Just because they're wearing suits these days doesn't mean a lot. they are not proud of our military. They are not proud the countries have a chance at freedom. Their solution would have been another bombed out aspirin factory.

 

[Jonesy9]

GSB- 2 facts and one opinion are not "juvenile charater assassination". I'm sorry that your first reaction to this post was to be dishonest with your spin, I guess the truth hurts.

 

[Shooter 2.5]

Americans in Vietnam had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam." Kerry testified, "We all did it."

Uh, wait one second there. Why on earth do we want a commander-in-chief who's an admitted war criminal???

 

[FPrice]

I fully expect...

this thread to be closed soon. It has gone far beyond any reason for continued existance.

The anti-Bush people cannot let go of their twisting of the truth.

The pro-Bush people cannot cannot get their point across without being accused of character assassination (what is what the anti's are doing).

And the Mod that closes this thread is going to be accused of hiding the truth about Bush.

Kinda makes you glad to be a part of the whole election process, doesn't it.

 

[HunterGatherer]

The anti-Bush people cannot let go of their twisting of the truth.

Credit where credit is due though. Ya gotta love that w4rma went to the trouble of posting paperwork that refutes his position. He'll always have a special place in my heart.

 

[Correia]

"And the Mod that closes this thread is going to be accused of hiding the truth about Bush." -Fprice


Like I give a flying crap.

CLOSED!