Butt forward fast draw

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While not what dualist was demonstrating, and maybe not what you were referring to. I like the cross draw for my New Army, it is butt forward and allows plenty of room for the long barrel to clear not to mention more comfortable while seated.

I don't have a lot of experience so my opinion could be changed, it seems like a strong side holster could be difficult to clear with an 8" barrel. Maybe the butt forward strongside method helps with that, otherwise I don't see much of an advantage.
I buy holsters in pairs, right and left handed. I agree with the cross draw in full flap or open top. I find butt forward just behind the point of the hip better if you have to get belly down for any reason. If i ain't gonna lay face down or belly crawl, and who the heck wants to, it's cross draw closer to the buckle in front of the hip..

I do love a full flap strong side right behind the point of the hip when I carry my 30/30. I carry it WWII carbine style over the off hand shoulder and it comes to bear very smoothly and safely just as the sidearm from the regulation holster strong side butt forward.

In short, I advise falling in love with more than one mode for the way I use my toys/tools. However I know plenty of lawmen and outdoorsmen that did it another way and got on just fine. Nothing is more personalized IMO than personal defense tools and how we carry / deploy them.
 
This may be pertinent to this discussion.

My friend, Pete, was at an unsupervised NFS gun range while a guy near him was practicing conventional 2-handed fast draws with factory ammo. He fumbled the draw with his left (weak) hand and tried to correct. Accidentally, he shot himself in the thigh.
It hit his femoral artery and the helicopter paramedics pronounced him dead as they left with his corpse.

There is a moral here.
Yes it's called learn the first three rules of gun safety and follow them. With a gun that is loaded, your booger hook off the bang switch, and not pointing the muzzle at yourself or anything you ain't willing to destrly you'll be fine. Do it not and you won't.

It's sad, but too many people, especially males with guns, don't need you to tell them squat. They know more than you do and will be quick to tell you so.

If this individual was doing a slow conventional draw he may have survived that day and you may have too, on the other hand he clearly violated two of the first three rules, was that because of his draw?

So while I kind of sort of understand the 'no holster work' signs at public ranges, and I understand a range officer at quals only allowing conventional draw, WHY THE HELL AM I ON A RANGE WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE TRUSTED?

I can't answer that question and most of my sight and trigger work for years has been done with compressed air and pellets because of that query.
 
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