Hey all...I have been shooting for about a year now-- mostly all rental guns at the range, but I finally picked up a new HK USP .45 in full size. I love the looks and the external safety with decocker. Anyhow, I recently went to the range with a buddy who owns a glock 17, XD .45, and a Ruger P89. When I showed him my new toy, I expected some compliments, but instead he asked why I would spend that much money on a gun. The gun was $900 out the door (including all fees and taxes). He said that I could have gotten the 9mm Ruger as well as either the glock or the XD. He went on to say that I might as well have gotten two new pistols for the price of one, and also that I could have had a 9mm and a .45. Also, he went on to say most Police Departments use Glocks or XD's so they must be superior as well as less expensive. What do you all think? Did I make a wrong decision?...After that trip to the range, I felt really bad about my purchase.
Buyer's Remorse: HK USP .45F
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I'm not sure why your friend would ridicule your purchase, except out of either A) jealousy or B) the misguided notion that only his decisions are the right ones, but you shouldn't let that impact how you feel about your new gun.
If you love the gun, you love to shoot it, you love it's features... hey it's your gun.
The world is full of $1K+ handguns, a lot of companies would be out of business if we all went with the lowest bidder.
If you love the gun, you love to shoot it, you love it's features... hey it's your gun.
The world is full of $1K+ handguns, a lot of companies would be out of business if we all went with the lowest bidder.
GotGlock
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Don't feel bad, you have a better machined piece of art. HK makes a excellent pistol, i spent 800 on a Sig to replace my glock for everyday carry. Glocks and XD's are not superior, they are good, but not as good as a sig or hk.
Obviously, you aren't sure. The only reason this would bother you is if it was already bothering you, right?
I wouldn't pay for an HK, but that doesn't mean it's the wrong gun for someone else. Only you can decide if you made the right decision.
Of course, I'd never buy another Ruger P-anything either. Shrug.
Working Man
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Only you can answer that.
I own Rugers and HKs and while I like my Rugers I would not trade my HKs
for any other gun currently out there. It fits exactly the nitch I want it to.
If you are not hurting from the money you paid and shoot the HK well, then I
would not worry about what your friend says. $900 is a little steep for a .45
USP (at least around here) but I have paid more for a less versatile gun in the
past. In the end it is your gun, your choice, and you have to be happy with it.
Remember.... opinions are like various parts of anatomy everyone has one.... it's
just some are bigger than others.
BryanP
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"Because it's what I wanted. Better to spend twice as much on that than settle."
Do you like the HK? Can you shoot it well? Then don't worry about it and just smile and nod at your friend.
Me, I never much cared for that HK, but that's me. Be sure to try out the Glock and the XD and such. If you happen to like them and/or shoot them better then you can look into selling the HK.
Do you like the HK? Can you shoot it well? Then don't worry about it and just smile and nod at your friend.
Me, I never much cared for that HK, but that's me. Be sure to try out the Glock and the XD and such. If you happen to like them and/or shoot them better then you can look into selling the HK.
Belgiboy
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There is one thing that a lot of people forget about buying guns (and cars too for that matter). It is not a rational choice, nothing about it is. Sure we love to talk about what is the best gun or what makes the most sense in a certain situation but look inside yourself and ask: Does this really influence what you actually end up buying?
Looking at your situation, it seems to me that you have been looking at a lot of guns before you made your purchase. You decided on the $900 HK. You absolutely made the right decision since the idea of that particular gun stuck with you, made you dream about it and caused you to fork out that kind of money. Does it make sense: only for you and that is all you have to care about.
PS: I drive a 2001 Ford Mustang Convertible here in snow-ridden minnesota
Looking at your situation, it seems to me that you have been looking at a lot of guns before you made your purchase. You decided on the $900 HK. You absolutely made the right decision since the idea of that particular gun stuck with you, made you dream about it and caused you to fork out that kind of money. Does it make sense: only for you and that is all you have to care about.
PS: I drive a 2001 Ford Mustang Convertible here in snow-ridden minnesota
ya think thats bad... try buying 1000.00 AIRGUNS and 500.00 knives and listen to what yer friends say then 
My two Shiloh Sharps cost more than a decent car and they are only single shots... I could have bought 7 decent AR's for that
Some guys say why would ya get married- ya could have 50 guns a year more... there is always quality of life to consider.
Ya did not make a wrong choice. The last 10 percent of quality comes at higher costs than the ok stuff. I like the HK suff even if I don't buy much of it. I don't fault anyone for buying them though. A socom and a can are very intersting to me Enjoy YOUR gun!
My two Shiloh Sharps cost more than a decent car and they are only single shots... I could have bought 7 decent AR's for that
Some guys say why would ya get married- ya could have 50 guns a year more... there is always quality of life to consider.
Ya did not make a wrong choice. The last 10 percent of quality comes at higher costs than the ok stuff. I like the HK suff even if I don't buy much of it. I don't fault anyone for buying them though. A socom and a can are very intersting to me
Enjoy YOUR gun!The only reason you should feel bad about your purchase is if the gun did not shoot properly or you do not feel comfortable with shooting it.
Don't worry about other people's opinions. H&K makes top of the line guns.
The best way that you can show your opinionated friend that you made the right choice is to outshoot him at the next trip to the range.
Nothing keeps a "know it all" quiet more than showing them that they have little or no idea what they are talking about.
Put more holes in the 10x than he can, then ask him what he thinks of your choice.
Don't worry about other people's opinions. H&K makes top of the line guns.
The best way that you can show your opinionated friend that you made the right choice is to outshoot him at the next trip to the range.
Nothing keeps a "know it all" quiet more than showing them that they have little or no idea what they are talking about.
Put more holes in the 10x than he can, then ask him what he thinks of your choice.
03Shadowbob
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you bought what you like. It's your money. Don't worry about other people's opinions in your firearms. Enjoy what YOU have.
10-Ring
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I would take a HK USP 45 over a Ruger, XD or Glock any day of the week. The USP 45 is one of the finest 45's you can have...you done good.
I'll keep my comment re: your 'buddy' :rollelyes" to myself
I'll keep my comment re: your 'buddy' :rollelyes" to myself
greener
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I'm with Working Man, what you buy and shoot is your business. I've shot a couple of H&K's, they are darned good pistols. Don't own one, but if mood met price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
One of the things I enjoy about going to shooting ranges is chatting about different firearms. Most of the time its friendly and you can get a lot of good (often very diverse) opinions about different firearms. Every now and then I run across someone with very strong opinions, usually negative, about what I'm shooting. It almost always comes from someone who isn't shooting as well with his superior handgun at 10 yards as I am with my trash at 15 yards. Nice thing about 26 years as an artillery officer, my hearing is bad enough that I can very easily tune those folks out.
One of the things I enjoy about going to shooting ranges is chatting about different firearms. Most of the time its friendly and you can get a lot of good (often very diverse) opinions about different firearms. Every now and then I run across someone with very strong opinions, usually negative, about what I'm shooting. It almost always comes from someone who isn't shooting as well with his superior handgun at 10 yards as I am with my trash at 15 yards. Nice thing about 26 years as an artillery officer, my hearing is bad enough that I can very easily tune those folks out.
Geez why would your friend ask a question like that???
Is he jealous because you can afford the gun and he can't?
Quit getting in touch with your inner feelings, reach up deep and pull them nuts back into place and the next time a friend ask you a question like that teach him what the term pistol whipped means,,,,,,,,
Is he jealous because you can afford the gun and he can't?
Quit getting in touch with your inner feelings, reach up deep and pull them nuts back into place and the next time a friend ask you a question like that teach him what the term pistol whipped means,,,,,,,,
Trust me when I say you got the better gun. What your friend said is as dumb as the Saturn commercial that says they are $25K cheaper than the Range Rover and the only thing it has "less" are cup holders I paid 110K for my Merc CLS55. I could have purchased six Saturns( or whatever) with that money. But that is what I wanted. Yes, they both take me to point A and B, but that is not the point. Your friend is just hating bad. I would not trade one HK USP for two glocks, but thats just me
I paid 110K for my Merc CLS55. I could have purchased six Saturns( or whatever) with that money. But that is what I wanted. Yes, they both take me to point A and B, but that is not the point. Your friend is just hating bad. I would not trade one HK USP for two glocks, but thats just meLonestar49
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So typical
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Jealousy, my friend, makes insecure friends say things that are meant to hurt you thru mental grief.
Your range bud, saw something he "wished he had, could afford" could "justify", so he says that for the price you paid, you could have gotten 2 guns. And what a surprise, he owns all of them, and swears by it, because he fell for the same "sales line" that LEO's buying-brokers did.. "here's a gun that will shoot anything you put thru it, no hammer (less moving parts) less cost to produce, to accidentally get banged on, and fire the gun accidental (Insurance requirement), as everything is within the closed slide. They (Glocks) passed the the torture test, as well they should, when you don't "own the gun" and it's possibly, a Dept. owned, used gun that one gets, with his new badge, if he can't buy one himself.
Glocks are great guns, make no mistake, but they, you, get what you pay for.
As opposed to your gun, which cost twice as much (there is his 2 gun theory) along with his total reasoning. If it's PD's choice of weapons, it must be the "best, and right gun", and that is what he bought, in his money-limited mind.
You got, as mentioned, a gun that is a piece of Art, along with a lot more talent in the "production line" that it, they, are built.
Buyers remorse, 90% of the time occurs when one buys something that cost a lot, and one could afford it, that one time, as opposed to another who could by 2 or 3 and not blink, money wise.
It is normal, and you're range friend, though I doubt he knows the entire routing of "Buyers Remorse" other than the opposite end of that mental condition, "jealousy, that he couldn't afford one like yours, nor owns it/one"
You just sit back for another 2 weeks, cleaning that beauty, going to the range and honing in with it. Putting some snap-caps in it at home and practice your grip and trigger pulls, and 2 weeks from now, you'll have a continuous grin on your face of "I love this gun", and don't expect your range bud to ever change his dislike of it, not until he can buy one and own one and "hold it in his hands, as an owner" of a fine piece of gunsmithing.
This is not a young thing nor an old thing, but simply a common financial thing, and most justify not spending a lot on one item, and for the same price, get 2 items, and fall-in with a crowd, unlike others, that take risk, invest in style and quality, and stand on their own 2 feet, as "an individual."
Make the right mental choice, and support "your own choice/s", and stay the individual you've set out to be..
LS
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Jealousy, my friend, makes insecure friends say things that are meant to hurt you thru mental grief.
Your range bud, saw something he "wished he had, could afford" could "justify", so he says that for the price you paid, you could have gotten 2 guns. And what a surprise, he owns all of them, and swears by it, because he fell for the same "sales line" that LEO's buying-brokers did.. "here's a gun that will shoot anything you put thru it, no hammer (less moving parts) less cost to produce, to accidentally get banged on, and fire the gun accidental (Insurance requirement), as everything is within the closed slide. They (Glocks) passed the the torture test, as well they should, when you don't "own the gun" and it's possibly, a Dept. owned, used gun that one gets, with his new badge, if he can't buy one himself.
Glocks are great guns, make no mistake, but they, you, get what you pay for.
As opposed to your gun, which cost twice as much (there is his 2 gun theory) along with his total reasoning. If it's PD's choice of weapons, it must be the "best, and right gun", and that is what he bought, in his money-limited mind.
You got, as mentioned, a gun that is a piece of Art, along with a lot more talent in the "production line" that it, they, are built.
Buyers remorse, 90% of the time occurs when one buys something that cost a lot, and one could afford it, that one time, as opposed to another who could by 2 or 3 and not blink, money wise.
It is normal, and you're range friend, though I doubt he knows the entire routing of "Buyers Remorse" other than the opposite end of that mental condition, "jealousy, that he couldn't afford one like yours, nor owns it/one"
You just sit back for another 2 weeks, cleaning that beauty, going to the range and honing in with it. Putting some snap-caps in it at home and practice your grip and trigger pulls, and 2 weeks from now, you'll have a continuous grin on your face of "I love this gun", and don't expect your range bud to ever change his dislike of it, not until he can buy one and own one and "hold it in his hands, as an owner" of a fine piece of gunsmithing.
This is not a young thing nor an old thing, but simply a common financial thing, and most justify not spending a lot on one item, and for the same price, get 2 items, and fall-in with a crowd, unlike others, that take risk, invest in style and quality, and stand on their own 2 feet, as "an individual."
Make the right mental choice, and support "your own choice/s", and stay the individual you've set out to be..
LS
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MarshallDodge
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If I had a friend like that I would no longer consider him a friend. Friends are there to support each other.
I have a friend that for his first gun he went out and bought the Springfield TGO. My first thoughts were that he spent way too much money on a 1911 but it's the gun he wanted. I never put him down for it or said that he could have gotten a better deal on something else.
One day I had the opportunity to support him after some dork behind the counter at the gun shop told him he paid way too much for a fancy 1911. My friend asked me if he had been "taken" and I asked him if he liked the gun. His answer was " I love it and it shoots great". I smiled and told him that's all that matters. The gun does shoot great by the way.
Go have fun with your HK and practice with it until your a better shot than your "friend". Then you can take him to the range and show him what an HK can do.
I have a friend that for his first gun he went out and bought the Springfield TGO. My first thoughts were that he spent way too much money on a 1911 but it's the gun he wanted. I never put him down for it or said that he could have gotten a better deal on something else.
One day I had the opportunity to support him after some dork behind the counter at the gun shop told him he paid way too much for a fancy 1911. My friend asked me if he had been "taken" and I asked him if he liked the gun. His answer was " I love it and it shoots great". I smiled and told him that's all that matters. The gun does shoot great by the way.
Go have fun with your HK and practice with it until your a better shot than your "friend". Then you can take him to the range and show him what an HK can do.
Quiet
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The H&K USP (in any caliber) are great pistols, accurate & very reliable.
Enjoy what you have. Your buddy needs to stop drinking the "hateraide".
There are LE Agencies that issues H&K USPs.
Remember, the grass always looks greener on the other side. It's not always true, but it does look greener.
Enjoy what you have. Your buddy needs to stop drinking the "hateraide".
There are LE Agencies that issues H&K USPs.
Remember, the grass always looks greener on the other side. It's not always true, but it does look greener.
CountGlockula
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Hk, Sigs, Glocks, Springers, etc. they all go "bang".
quickcanary
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Congrats, ajl. As was previously stated, if YOU like the gun then you should have no regrets. It seems to have the features you like and is no doubt a quality firearm.
As for "quality over quantity," that is somewhat subjective. If you had taken your $900 and purchased two pistols, say an M&P9 and an XD45, I'm sure those would also be quality firearms and might even shoot equally as well as the H&K. It basically comes down to what one wants in a firearm and what one is willing to pay. As I'm fairly new to this sport/hobby, I would probably be more likely to take $900 and purchase two pistols for the sake of expanding my collection and having some variety. I could buy a CZ and M&P for that much and go home with a grin on my face knowing that I have two more quality firearms at my disposal. But H&K makes fine guns, albeit at a premium, and I'd have absolutely no qualms about owning one if that happened to be my choice.
As an analogy, my last car was a highly modified Canary Yellow 1994 Mustang GT. I had wanted one ever since I was 16. Finally, when I was in my early 20s, the insurance costs associated with owning such a car were finally down to a somewhat reasonable level. I was very specific in wanting that yellow 8-cylinder Mustang with a 5-spd transmission, and I looked long and hard to find one. I did find one, and within a couple of years I had made it a VERY quick car (hence my username). By contrast, my father-in-law owns a 2002 Corvette (and a USP .40). He has plenty of money at his disposal and likes to own nice things. I tend to be a "bang for the buck" or price/performance type of guy, and although my GT was roughly as fast as his Vette at probably 1/4 the cost, I'm sure he'd much rather drive the Chevy around town. It's simply his choice given the disposable income that he has, and I have no problem with that. Just as he probably wasn't overly impressed with my suped-up GT, he didn't seem overly enthusiastic when I showed him my newly-purchased Glock. I can shoot my Glock better than his H&K USP, so it works for me and I have no regrets about not spending more for a premium name that may or may not shoot better or be more reliable.
Good luck, be safe, and don't worry about what others think.
As for "quality over quantity," that is somewhat subjective. If you had taken your $900 and purchased two pistols, say an M&P9 and an XD45, I'm sure those would also be quality firearms and might even shoot equally as well as the H&K. It basically comes down to what one wants in a firearm and what one is willing to pay. As I'm fairly new to this sport/hobby, I would probably be more likely to take $900 and purchase two pistols for the sake of expanding my collection and having some variety. I could buy a CZ and M&P for that much and go home with a grin on my face knowing that I have two more quality firearms at my disposal. But H&K makes fine guns, albeit at a premium, and I'd have absolutely no qualms about owning one if that happened to be my choice.
As an analogy, my last car was a highly modified Canary Yellow 1994 Mustang GT. I had wanted one ever since I was 16. Finally, when I was in my early 20s, the insurance costs associated with owning such a car were finally down to a somewhat reasonable level. I was very specific in wanting that yellow 8-cylinder Mustang with a 5-spd transmission, and I looked long and hard to find one. I did find one, and within a couple of years I had made it a VERY quick car (hence my username
). By contrast, my father-in-law owns a 2002 Corvette (and a USP .40). He has plenty of money at his disposal and likes to own nice things. I tend to be a "bang for the buck" or price/performance type of guy, and although my GT was roughly as fast as his Vette at probably 1/4 the cost, I'm sure he'd much rather drive the Chevy around town. It's simply his choice given the disposable income that he has, and I have no problem with that. Just as he probably wasn't overly impressed with my suped-up GT, he didn't seem overly enthusiastic when I showed him my newly-purchased Glock. I can shoot my Glock better than his H&K USP, so it works for me and I have no regrets about not spending more for a premium name that may or may not shoot better or be more reliable.Good luck, be safe, and don't worry about what others think.
GotGlock
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Anyways lets see some pics. Gun porn will always make you feel better, showing off your new baby.
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