22LongRifle
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If money is no object, the SIG!
If money is tight, the G19!
Jerry
If money is tight, the G19!
Jerry
Buying my first semiauto...looking at a Glock 19 or Sig 226. Thoughts?
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michiganfan
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The 19 is lighter and easier, in geneeral, to conceal than the 226.
quickcanary
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Don't worry, I won't make my final purchase decision based on what looks "cool." If that was the case, a Glock wouldn't even be in the running because as I said earlier, to me it looks more like a utilitarian tool than an elegant work of art. IMO, of course. 
I'm still leaning toward the 19 or the 226/229, though I still haven't ruled out the XD or Ruger 9mm pistols. A buddy let me handle his P95 last night and it felt pretty good. I also wouldn't be opposed to getting a S&W M&P 9 since I've actually had the opportunity to shoot one and liked it, but I'd like to get something different than what my GF's father has.
What about the DAK trigger system on the Sigs? Is that purely a matter of preference or do most people prefer it to the standard trigger system? I wasn't sure how long the DAK had been out, or how much more I should expect to pay for it.
I'm still leaning toward the 19 or the 226/229, though I still haven't ruled out the XD or Ruger 9mm pistols. A buddy let me handle his P95 last night and it felt pretty good. I also wouldn't be opposed to getting a S&W M&P 9 since I've actually had the opportunity to shoot one and liked it, but I'd like to get something different than what my GF's father has.
What about the DAK trigger system on the Sigs? Is that purely a matter of preference or do most people prefer it to the standard trigger system? I wasn't sure how long the DAK had been out, or how much more I should expect to pay for it.
I am a Glocker no doubt about it. I've tried other autos to include the Beretta styles and sigs, they just don't cut it for me. They don't point naturally to me and they're awfully big compared to the Glocks.
I like to Keep It Simple Stupid K.I.S.S. and the Glock is the epitome of this.
I like to Keep It Simple Stupid K.I.S.S. and the Glock is the epitome of this.
quickcanary
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The Berettas are nice looking guns, but I've read so many mixed opinions on them I just never placed them at the top of my list. I'm sure there are bound to be a few that would meet my needs in terms of accuracy and reliability, though.
I am also interested in a couple of the CZ models, specifically the 75 B and P01.
I just got back from my uncle's house...he has a Glock 17 and I didn't seem to have a problem with the grip angle. I really wish I could find a Sig for comparison. A local store claims to have a used 226; hopefully I can get over there before it sells.
I am also interested in a couple of the CZ models, specifically the 75 B and P01.
I just got back from my uncle's house...he has a Glock 17 and I didn't seem to have a problem with the grip angle. I really wish I could find a Sig for comparison. A local store claims to have a used 226; hopefully I can get over there before it sells.
GLOCK19XDSC
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I have two G19's, a 3rd Gen and a 2nd Gen, and will never part with either.
Yesterday, they had Sig Day at my range of choice, and I had an opportunity to fire a stainless 226 . It was dead-on accurate, good trigger, etc. Sweet. I would probably not carry it due to weight, but it's on my list for future purchase.
FWIW, I don't buy in to the "grip angle" thing. Proper sight alignment works for me.
Yesterday, they had Sig Day at my range of choice, and I had an opportunity to fire a stainless 226 . It was dead-on accurate, good trigger, etc. Sweet. I would probably not carry it due to weight, but it's on my list for future purchase.
FWIW, I don't buy in to the "grip angle" thing. Proper sight alignment works for me.
MartinBrody
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I think the Glock 19 and Sig 226 are the best of what each mfg. offers. The Sig feels "nicer" to me, but you are paying for it. Both are equally reliable, practically accurate and easy to take down. I think it comes down to if you prefer the feel and look of the Sig, are you willing to pay for it?
Also consider the Sig 239 in 9mm, it is closer in size to the Glock 19 and a very handsome pistol.
Also consider the Sig 239 in 9mm, it is closer in size to the Glock 19 and a very handsome pistol.
The P01 is a fantastic pistol. My wife and I both carry them (concealed) daily.
I'm probably going to be picking up a CZ-75BD at the next gun show in Raleigh.
CZ's, in my opinion, are fine firearms and are very attractively priced.
It might take a little effort to track a P01 down, and might be even harder to find a shop that will let you try one out on their range... but it is time very well spent.
If you find yourself down in the Wake/Granville county area in NC, give me a shout. We can meet at a local outdoor club and I'll let you give one of my P01's a spin. All I ask is that you bring your own 9mm ammo.
Steve
I'm probably going to be picking up a CZ-75BD at the next gun show in Raleigh.
CZ's, in my opinion, are fine firearms and are very attractively priced.
It might take a little effort to track a P01 down, and might be even harder to find a shop that will let you try one out on their range... but it is time very well spent.
If you find yourself down in the Wake/Granville county area in NC, give me a shout. We can meet at a local outdoor club and I'll let you give one of my P01's a spin. All I ask is that you bring your own 9mm ammo.
Steve
lawdogso
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Go Sig and do it right the first time.
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Autolycus
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Look at HK. Its the perfect cross between them. Quality and the lightweight of the Glock.
Try a USP or USPc or the P2000.
Try a USP or USPc or the P2000.
The Lone Haranguer
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Both are reliable. Both are accurate. Both are easy to field strip for cleaning. (The Glock has a slight edge in detail stripping, i.e., down to every last component, and has fewer of them.) The only questions left are: how do they fit in your hand and which trigger action do you prefer?
I own both a P228 (a P226 shortened about 3/4 of an inch on each end) and a Glock 19. The Glock fits better in my hand due to its short trigger reach and the trigger (the same for every shot) is easier for me to control. The SIG has a long heavy double-action pull for the first shot and a short light single-action pull for subsequent shots. You have to learn two pulls and to transition between them, something I've never mastered to my satisfaction. A trigger option for SIGs is the recently introduced DAK, a short-stroke double-action-only system. I tried one and thought it was OK, but there is still no getting around the size/hand fit problem (for me). A DA/SA can be retrofitted to DAO, essentially the same long DA pull for every shot. This is not appealing to me, but in the interest of completeness should be mentioned.
I like the S&W M&P pistols better than either, however. This is not a slam against either SIG or Glock, just the result of 20 years of development catching up.
I own a Sig P239 in .40 and a Glock 26 in 9mm. Before I bought the 26 I had extensive experience with a Glock 19.
When I bought the Sig P239 I went to pick up a Glock 17. The officer that sold it to me, talked me out of the Glock in favor of the Sig. I was primarily sold by the Sig's DA/SA operation. Having a harder pull on that first shot meant less chance of an accidental discharge to me.
The Sig has been a great gun, but definitely not perfect (I am sure no weapon is). I have had it 6 years and have put several thousand rounds through it easily. I only use quality brass factory ammo in my pistols. That said I have had several FTFs in the SIG (probably 5 or 6 out of thousands of rounds).
The next time I went to purchase a Glock 19 (my neighbor has one and I have shot it many times, great gun) I ended up with a XD-9. The XD-9 is a fantastic pistol. I prefer it over my Sig any day. It's lighter has a good safety system and very consistent trigger pull. It reminds me of an updated Glock. If I were you I would definitely consider a Springfield XD series pistol.
Finally I couldn't resist any longer. I had a chance to use a Glock 26 at the range and after about 50 rounds, I really started getting comfortable with it. By the end of my second box of ammo, I was putting the holes where I wanted them from 20-30 feet. So I picked up a Glock 26 with night sights and a Bianchi Model 100 holster:
http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2968.php
Personally I prefer Glocks over Sigs, but as you can tell everyone has their own opinion. I feel totally confident in my Glock or my XD as neither has ever had a FTF or any other malfunction. I am confident in my Sig, but there is a bit of doubt in my mind as I have seen in malfunction a few times...
When I bought the Sig P239 I went to pick up a Glock 17. The officer that sold it to me, talked me out of the Glock in favor of the Sig. I was primarily sold by the Sig's DA/SA operation. Having a harder pull on that first shot meant less chance of an accidental discharge to me.
The Sig has been a great gun, but definitely not perfect (I am sure no weapon is). I have had it 6 years and have put several thousand rounds through it easily. I only use quality brass factory ammo in my pistols. That said I have had several FTFs in the SIG (probably 5 or 6 out of thousands of rounds).
The next time I went to purchase a Glock 19 (my neighbor has one and I have shot it many times, great gun) I ended up with a XD-9. The XD-9 is a fantastic pistol. I prefer it over my Sig any day. It's lighter has a good safety system and very consistent trigger pull. It reminds me of an updated Glock. If I were you I would definitely consider a Springfield XD series pistol.
Finally I couldn't resist any longer. I had a chance to use a Glock 26 at the range and after about 50 rounds, I really started getting comfortable with it. By the end of my second box of ammo, I was putting the holes where I wanted them from 20-30 feet. So I picked up a Glock 26 with night sights and a Bianchi Model 100 holster:
http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum2968.php
Personally I prefer Glocks over Sigs, but as you can tell everyone has their own opinion. I feel totally confident in my Glock or my XD as neither has ever had a FTF or any other malfunction. I am confident in my Sig, but there is a bit of doubt in my mind as I have seen in malfunction a few times...
The Law
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Get a SIG. You will not be disappointed!!
Ok, here we go....
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Both of the pistols that you mentioned fit your criteria. Both are very reliable, accurate, and easy to maintain. That said, I prefer the SIG. I have a 229 in 9mm and love it. The 226 is probably better for most things than the 229, and is on my list of pistols to buy. The Glock is also a very good gun, but I personally don’t like their triggers and the way that they fit (or rather don’t fit) my hand. The 229 and 229 just feel more natural to me. Also, as someone else mentioned, field stripping a Glock requires you to pull the trigger, which is not something that I like.
You should really go to a range that rents and try to rent both guns and shoot them to see which one fits you better, and which one that you are more comfortable with.
Also, did you like the HK USP? They are phenomenal guns and are great shooters. They are just as easy to care for and just as accurate and reliable as the other two. One of my HK USP45's has almost 10k rounds through it with only 1 failure, and that was due to a box of bad ammo.
-Fred
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Both of the pistols that you mentioned fit your criteria. Both are very reliable, accurate, and easy to maintain. That said, I prefer the SIG. I have a 229 in 9mm and love it. The 226 is probably better for most things than the 229, and is on my list of pistols to buy. The Glock is also a very good gun, but I personally don’t like their triggers and the way that they fit (or rather don’t fit) my hand. The 229 and 229 just feel more natural to me. Also, as someone else mentioned, field stripping a Glock requires you to pull the trigger, which is not something that I like.
You should really go to a range that rents and try to rent both guns and shoot them to see which one fits you better, and which one that you are more comfortable with.
Also, did you like the HK USP? They are phenomenal guns and are great shooters. They are just as easy to care for and just as accurate and reliable as the other two. One of my HK USP45's has almost 10k rounds through it with only 1 failure, and that was due to a box of bad ammo.
-Fred
Scorpiusdeus
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I feel that the Sig P226 is one of the finest firearms ever made. I'm not a fan of the Glock at all. For me, it just never felt right.
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can't comment on glocks as i have no experience with them. but I do love sigs. the 226/228 are fabulous firearms and they look cool as sin. I myself though ended up going with the CZ PCR. the PCR is essentially the P01 without the light rail. if you are looking to carry this firearm then I would consider the PCR. it is a slim pistol with beautiful lines and a grip that fits a hand like no other. Mine has thus far had close to 2k through it with no problems. its an easy gun to clean as well. Mine is accurate and seems very well made. The available .22 conversion kit makes my PCR into one of the best .22's on the market (IMO and for the money for sure), it has yet to choke on me despite firing a rediculous amount of rounds straight (cheap and nice ammo). I was very happy with the kit after a bad experience with a ruger mkII. The frame is a light alloy and the slide is steel. this makes for a lighter pistol than a full steel, but heavy enough to absorb a fair amount of flip that carry guns seem to have. 14 +1 rounds seems more than adequate to me. For under $400 I bought my pcr used (200rnds) with a few hicaps and a nice holster, add about $175 for the conversion kit and I had 2 awesome guns for under $600 I LOVE this gun.
quickcanary
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Fred, I did like the USP...a lot. I shot 50 rounds through it and only had 1 hole outside of a group the size of about 3 quarters, so it was definitely putting the rounds where I wanted them to go. It was a lot of fun to shoot.
I was just under the impression that I could get a gun as good as the H&K for a couple hundred less. The H&K was very nice but I don't want to spend too much for something that might be overkill for a rookie...
My uncle's 17 felt pretty nice in my hands, but I didn't get to shoot it. A local shop has a preowned 226 that I'm going to try to look at tonight. If it feels good and looks good...who knows, it might follow me home.
I was just under the impression that I could get a gun as good as the H&K for a couple hundred less. The H&K was very nice but I don't want to spend too much for something that might be overkill for a rookie...
My uncle's 17 felt pretty nice in my hands, but I didn't get to shoot it. A local shop has a preowned 226 that I'm going to try to look at tonight. If it feels good and looks good...who knows, it might follow me home.
gudel
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lol... they all say that, but you really know you get what you pay for, right?
When I was choosing my first gun, it was between the USP and the 226, both in 9mm. I chose the 226 and have never looked back.
The Sig felt the best in my hand, compared to the USP and the Glocks. When I got my first gun, I didn't want price to be a factor. But I know that it would've cost me $250-300 less for a new Glock than a new Sig. I'm not sure how prices are over in Virginia, but that's how things are out here in L.A.
If money is no object, get a new Sig. It'll be perfection right out of the box and you'll have no regrets.
If money is of concern, then get a used Sig.
The Sig felt the best in my hand, compared to the USP and the Glocks. When I got my first gun, I didn't want price to be a factor. But I know that it would've cost me $250-300 less for a new Glock than a new Sig. I'm not sure how prices are over in Virginia, but that's how things are out here in L.A.
If money is no object, get a new Sig. It'll be perfection right out of the box and you'll have no regrets.
If money is of concern, then get a used Sig.
sjack003
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I just bought a G-19 and have been shooting twice so far. About 400 rounds so far and I absolutely love it. No malfunctions. Shoots great! Great weight and form/function appeal to me.
Did I say it shoots great?
Did I say it shoots great?
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A sig p229 in 40 cal was my first gun, and I own a glock 19. I traded the 229 in to fund a GSR, and I wish I had that 229 that I used to have. Given the choice and cash flow, I would buy the Sig.
sig has external hammer, glock is hammerless.
Sig has decocker.
For the price, both are high. I've got the XD 9mm and love it. It's about $100 cheaper than the glock 19 around here, and about the same as the 226 used. I haven't seen a 226 new around here, ever. There are always a lot of used one's though.
I had a glock 21 and a sig 226 at one point. good pistols. I've shot the g17, good pistol. recoils different on glocks. Did I mention no safety and no hammer? No chamber loaded or cocked indicators either, not good for a guy like me who always has his guns condition 0.
The sig's got aluminum lower, that's pretty nice. the finish does wear though, and I've never seen one that looked perfect used...except a sig 2340 pro polymer frame in .40 that I sold my brother a while back. It looked and felt like it had never been fired.
There's advantages/disadvantages all the way around. Pick what you think feels best, consider the XD because it's cheaper and gets good reviews.
Sig has decocker.
For the price, both are high. I've got the XD 9mm and love it. It's about $100 cheaper than the glock 19 around here, and about the same as the 226 used. I haven't seen a 226 new around here, ever. There are always a lot of used one's though.
I had a glock 21 and a sig 226 at one point. good pistols. I've shot the g17, good pistol. recoils different on glocks. Did I mention no safety and no hammer? No chamber loaded or cocked indicators either, not good for a guy like me who always has his guns condition 0.
The sig's got aluminum lower, that's pretty nice. the finish does wear though, and I've never seen one that looked perfect used...except a sig 2340 pro polymer frame in .40 that I sold my brother a while back. It looked and felt like it had never been fired.
There's advantages/disadvantages all the way around. Pick what you think feels best, consider the XD because it's cheaper and gets good reviews.
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