Not out of state. It's legal at the Federal level to buy a long gun out of state at an FFL, but only if it's legal according to the laws of BOTH states. CA doesn't allow it, so it's not legal.not even a rifle or shotgun?
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natman said:If you are a CA resident, you can't purchase a firearm in another state.
I didn't realize California was this bad when it comes to suppressing interstate commerce.
I'm sure that there at FFLs that charge quite a bit, but transfer fees that I'm aware of usually run between $35 and $50.Oh it is worse than that due to many local FFLs.
Most of the big chains charge 75-$150 for an out of state transfer to be transferred to them and then to you.
CA requires another $35 fee.
On top of that CA has just started requiring FFLs to collect state sales tax on the total price of the item, which is nearly 10% many places.
Then you have shipping costs.
The use tax on out of state purchases has been on the books for over 70 years.Internet purchases have always been subject to use fees.
I'm sure that there at FFLs that charge quite a bit, but transfer fees that I'm aware of usually run between $35 and $50.
I think you have confused the fees that CA requires. The CA DROS is $25. You might be thinking of the PPT fee, which is $10...which when added to the $25 DROS, is $35.
I am interested where they charge 10% state sales tax.
I'm sure that there at FFLs that charge quite a bit, but transfer fees that I'm aware of usually run between $35 and $50.
I think you have confused the fees that CA requires. The CA DROS is $25. You might be thinking of the PPT fee, which is $10...which when added to the $25 DROS, is $35.
Internet purchases have always been subject to use fees. If not collected by the FFL at the POS, there is a handy place on your tax return for you to report and list the amount...I am interested where they charge 10% state sales tax.
Shipping cost for my last two handgun purchases were $12 and my last long gun was $18 (larger container)
That's what I pay, $25 to the state, $35 to the FFL...4 local FFLs to choose fromGuysModel94 said:Local gun store (Bullseye in Riverside) charger $60.- to handle out of state transfers.
I guess it really is a bit cheaper to live in NorCal.Zoogster said:For an example of cities currently above 9%
I see what you did thereShawnC said:Would CA be the POS or just the individuals elected there?
natman said:If you are a CA resident, you can't purchase a firearm in another state.
He never claimed to be a California resident when he purchased the firearm. College students, winter/summer homes and military members, for example, may have dual states of residency.
tacstar said:What is the protocol a CA resident must follow when returning to CA with a firearm purchased in another state?
Is a CA resident free to travel back to CA with the newly purchased firearm or must the firearm be shipped to a FFL holder in CA?
A non-FFL licensed CA resident can purchase a firearm in another state.natman said:If you are a CA resident, you can't purchase a firearm in another state.
Yes, or you could be a CA resident with an FFL. Or you could have dual Earth-Martian citizenship or be a time traveler from before 1968, either of which might complicate things. However, since the OP didn't mention any of these exceptional conditions, it seems reasonable to answer the OP's question in the context it was asked.As others mentioned, several valid reasons a CA resident may have purchased out of state firearms - off the top of my head, C&R holder on a trip, dual state residency, or inheritance, or gift, or military member on orders elsewhere.
natman said:in the context of the OP's question
It's not really a California issue. It's a matter of federal law.medalguy said:I'm sure glad I don't have the privilege of residing in California.
NavyLCDR said:Respectfully, we don't know what the context of the OP's question is, because we don't have enough info to determine in what context the OP's question is in.
18 U.S.C. 922. Unlawful acts
(a) It shall be unlawful—
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(3) for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State, except that this paragraph
(A) shall not preclude any person who lawfully acquires a firearm by bequest or intestate succession in a State other than his State of residence from transporting the firearm into or receiving it in that State, if it is lawful for such person to purchase or possess such firearm in that State,
(B) shall not apply to the transportation or receipt of a firearm obtained in conformity with subsection (b)(3) of this section, and
(C) shall not apply to the transportation of any firearm acquired in any State prior to the effective date of this chapter;
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(5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to
(A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence, and
(B) the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;
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(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver --
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(3) any firearm to any person who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the licensee's place of business is located, except that this paragraph
(A) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or shotgun to a resident of a State other than a State in which the licensee's place of business is located if the transferee meets in person with the transferor to accomplish the transfer, and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States (and any licensed manufacturer, importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes of this subparagraph, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to have had actual knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances of both States), and...
(B) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;
It's not really a California issue. It's a matter of federal law.
Well, I quoted his original message. IMO, it's quite clear that when he asks what protocol "a CA resident" must follow to bring back a gun purchased in another state, he is referring to an ordinary non-licensee. If the person in question had a C&R, an FFL, was receiving an inheritance or any of the other exceptional circumstances that would allow him to bring the gun back without the services of a CA FFL, he would have said so. Since there's not the slightest hint that any of these exceptions apply, an answer geared towards an ordinary person is perfectly reasonable.Respectfully, we don't know what the context of the OP's question is, because we don't have enough info to determine in what context the OP's question is in.