It actually applys to every state, not just CA. In every single state, the way you transport a gun has its legalitys. For example some states say having a loaded gun in your car is fine, it just has to be concealed. other say its fine to have a long gun in a rifle rack in a truck, but hand a hand gun from it and your in deep do-do.
California- Carry from Car to Motel Room?
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It actually applys to every state, not just CA. In every single state, the way you transport a gun has its legalitys. For example some states say having a loaded gun in your car is fine, it just has to be concealed. other say its fine to have a long gun in a rifle rack in a truck, but hand a hand gun from it and your in deep do-do.
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It is sad but Tab's right just about every state has local law enforcement just itching to snag an out of stater who is obviously ignorant of local ordnances
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Only in Texas
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Congress has used interstate shipment and commerce to place many restrictions on firearms possession and ownership. I wish Congress would do the same thing and revise FOPA to apply universaly to any firearm that has been in interstate commerce or shipment and that firearm may be carried inside and oustide of a vehicle unloaded in a secure case with the definition of being unloaded as no round is in a position to be fired by an action of the trigger.
Don't get me wrong, this is not how I feel a firearm SHOULD be carried and I don't feel we SHOULD be restricted to this type of carry, but it would be nice if this type of carry was universaly allowed regardless of state laws.
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It IS sad.
Having lived the first 50 years of my life in California, moving out from there in 1998, it very much saddens me to see the extent of the legislative attention that has been paid to a mere magazine since I left there.
What busywork they do.
Having lived the first 50 years of my life in California, moving out from there in 1998, it very much saddens me to see the extent of the legislative attention that has been paid to a mere magazine since I left there.
What busywork they do.
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grndslm said:
NO!
27 CFR 478.11:
State of residence. The State in which an individual resides. An individual resides in a State if he or she is present in a State with the intention of making a home in that State.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...&node=27:3.0.1.2.3&idno=27#27:3.0.1.2.3.2.1.1
The intention of vacationing does not count, the intention of buying/selling firearms certainly does not count.
I should probly start a new thread for this stuff, since it's not California specific... but oh well.
It still seems to me that a motel would be considered a legal place of residence. The "intention of making a home in that state" part is pretty vague in itself, and there is no time limit mentioned for a U.S. citizen to make that state your home state, unlike aliens, who must live in that same state for 90 days before purchase. You could merely state you *were* intending to make a home in that state, but the prices weren't acceptable after looking around for 2 or 3 days. You could merely state that the first definition for home that came up on Google was the same definition you understood: "where you live at a particular time". There is no time limit to what you consider your home, and what you INTEND to make your home just makes it even more vague. I believe that's why that same statute/law doesn't define what a home is.
I also think it's more disturbing that an illegal alien can purchase a gun at any point during his/her "illegal" residence.
It still seems to me that a motel would be considered a legal place of residence. The "intention of making a home in that state" part is pretty vague in itself, and there is no time limit mentioned for a U.S. citizen to make that state your home state, unlike aliens, who must live in that same state for 90 days before purchase. You could merely state you *were* intending to make a home in that state, but the prices weren't acceptable after looking around for 2 or 3 days. You could merely state that the first definition for home that came up on Google was the same definition you understood: "where you live at a particular time". There is no time limit to what you consider your home, and what you INTEND to make your home just makes it even more vague. I believe that's why that same statute/law doesn't define what a home is.
I also think it's more disturbing that an illegal alien can purchase a gun at any point during his/her "illegal" residence.
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grndslm,
An illegal alien cannot legally purchase firearms. Only legal, non-US citizen immigrating type aliens can. You have exactly the same abilities to purchase firearms illegally as the illegal alien does - from Joe Criminal on the street.
An illegal alien cannot legally purchase firearms. Only legal, non-US citizen immigrating type aliens can. You have exactly the same abilities to purchase firearms illegally as the illegal alien does - from Joe Criminal on the street.
Ahh... thanks, Navy!
I completely missed the definition of Alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States, thinking that the 4 parts underneath were actually defining alien. And it just made all the sense in the world to me, because I've never heard of a "legal alien". But I guess not everyone who is visiting needs full citizenship. Ya learn somethin' everyday, don't ya?
I completely missed the definition of Alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States, thinking that the 4 parts underneath were actually defining alien. And it just made all the sense in the world to me, because I've never heard of a "legal alien". But I guess not everyone who is visiting needs full citizenship. Ya learn somethin' everyday, don't ya?
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