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California, Universities & CCW

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BerettaNut92

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I looked up CPC 626.9 which supposedly restricts one from having a gun on or near a school (K-12, University). I also read that you can carry on campus in California if you have a CCW. I looked up 626.9 and can't find the part that says it's kosher if I have my state CCW...anyone?

I looked up Packing.org but everything was a few years old.
 
Skunk,

My little bro, aka the Sarge, has served in a number of So. Cal. departments over the years, including the U.C. system.

I put your question to him. After thinking a bit, his first comment was "You know, after over twenty five years in law enforcement, I can't recall ever having even seen a CCW". He's currently in the field, but said when he gets back to the station he'd look it up and let me know. Off the top of his head, he said so far as he knows only sworn LEO's can carry on campus. He also said if you have a CCW, it should state clearly as to what's permissible, and he was pretty certain carrying in any school is strictly prohibited.

I'll post what he comes up with.
 
I'm looking at my Cali issued permit right now and it does NOT indicate where you can or cannot carry.

If I recall (have to go home and dig out the DOJ paperwork) I believe that the only places that you cannot carry, as stated by the aforementioned DOJ, is Federal Property. It is 'recommended' that you do not carry in 'businesses whose primary function is the sale of alcohol for consumption on the premise’- that is, bars. Restaurants that serve liquor are ok, so are nightclubs that have dancing or live music.
 
Okay gang, for what it's worth here's the response I received from my brother when he got back to the office:

I did a little research. Here's what I found.

First, under section 12050 of the penal code, a
sheriff, or municipal police chief can issue a CCW.

Under subsection (b), "A license may include any
reasonable restrictions or conditions which the
issuing authority deems warranted, including
restrictions as to the time, place, manner, and
circumstances under which the person may carry a
pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person."

With that in mind, and understanding that many CCW's
are issued with restrictions prohibiting the carrying
of a firearm on school grounds, here is what the gun
on campus law says.

Section 626.9 PC, subsection (l), it states: "This
section does not apply to a duly appointed peace
officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with
section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid
peace officer of another state or the federal
government who is carrying out official duties while
in California, any person summoned by any of these
officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the
peace while he or she is actually engaged in asisting
the officer, a member of the military forces of this
state or of the United States who is engaged in the
performance of his or her duties, a person holding a
valid license to carry the firearm pursuant to Article
3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of
Title 2 of Part 4, or an armored vehicle guard,
engaged in the performance of his or her duties, as
defined in subdivision (e) of Section 7521 of the
Business and Professions Code."

Section 12050 PC is the CCW section in the penal code
which authorizes the issuance of a CCW. If the person
is not restricted by the issuing authority, the law
does allow for a CCW permited person to carry on a
school or college ground.

One small disclaimer; I'm not sure what the "...of
Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4..." is referencing, but
I assume that it applies to what I copied above (the
12050 section reference).

Hope this helps.

Please don't construe this as a legal opinion. It's just the opinion of a fairly busy guy (my brother, certainly not myself) trying to help fellow gun enthuthiasts.
 
Cool, thanks. That's what I thought but I wanted to make sure I was in the clear. After getting tired of reading, I ran a search for 'permit' and 'ccw' but I guess it just says 'license' so that's why I never found it.
 
Yup. Unless barred by your issuing agency, college/university carry is fine.

Most agencies put SOME sort of additional restriction regarding alky on the back of the permit. "No carry in bars" is one type, or "no packin' with a BAC of .08" isn't unheard of.
 
PRK better then most states

in respect to CCW,the hardest part is getting one.
once you've cleared that hurdle you can carry allmost
any where.
In AZ/NV for instance a college student has to put up
with gun free victim status
 
Argh! As someone who spends way too many of his waking hours at one of these places, or biking/bussing/walking/flapping my arms trying to fly back and forth from there, I can only dream of CCW.

That is, until I learn the secret handshake, get the decoder ring, or whatever it is one must do to cajole the King's Court into endowing me with "just cause" approval.

Oh, but then, it's all gravy!

:mad:

(This is no dig at you, Skunk. Congrats for making it into the club. May your days be many and free of Lockyer.)
 
One thing that would concern me wouldn't be the PRK laws, but the laws specific to the Universities themselves.

I'm sure the PRK Regeants have something in their bylaws about CCW's on campus.

It would really surprise me if there isn't.

Take Berkeley for instance, I would be shocked if they don't ban guns. I mean, Berkeley, naked men, ok. Guns to protect yourself, not ok...

:scrutiny:
 
It's not just California. Discretionary CCW states typically have very loose rules for time/place of carry; the assumption is that "the elite" (with apologies to skunky :p!) shouldn't be "bothered".

Once egalitarianism sets in, suddenly "we the people" aren't as trustworthy :rolleyes:.
 
Any state wants to make sure that there are always a few places where mass shootings can occur without undue danger to the murderer. :mad:

MR
 
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