CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I was gonna put mine on a Ruger 77 .338RCM but may have to put it on something else just to get in the woods with it.
Still can't see the target and the front sight using the same spot on my trifocals. If you don't understand why this is an issue, just wait, you will eventually.
You don’t understand why someone would use a 4X scope on a 30-30 or .35 Remington-your own words. When questioned about that you bring 36X in to the conversation. When questioned about 36X you brought up using a rifle scope in lieu of binoculars and started talking about large objectives and the design of lever gun stocks. I do believe most of us posting on this thread know this already. In addition it’s pretty easy to raise the comb on a lever gun, it cost me $20.00 but I could have done it for much less. If you don’t want magnification on your lever guns over 2.5X that’s fine. If you can use an aperture sight on a lever gun I believe that’s great. But aperture sights haven’t worked for me for a while now, I’m 61, and it is much easier for me to make a shot at 150+ yards with more magnification than 2.5X. There are many people in the same boat as me. You don’t have to understand it, but it is true.
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No one said anything about using a scope to identify game.
I've shot groups at 2x and 7x wasn't much difference actually surprised me how close the size of the groups were. But why not have the advantages of 2x and 7x or 1.75 and 6Look at your own picture there's room for a larger objective and still have the scope low.
I agree with you there from the standpoint I believe the better the glass the less magnification you need. That was brought home rather abruptly to one of my son’s friends when he could see a 100 yard target better with my 3.5-10x44 MeoPro than he could with his Vortex Crossfire II set at 18X.People have a preconceived notion that higher magnification will automatically result in smaller 100 yd. groups. Maybe to a tiny degree, but not enough to matter.
I'm hoping this is true for myself. I started with irons as a kid and moved to scoped rifles. Now in my early 30's I've been very interested in peep or aperture sights on longish range (100-250yds) shots. Very interesting and a fun challenge to get back to basics.I'm not disputing that some folks have difficulty using iron sights as they get older but I am saying that just because you're older than the states of Alaska and Hawaii and have poor (albeit corrected) eyesight doesn't mean that some older individuals can't master a peep sight, especially when you've used one all of your life.
I agree and have had some heated arguments for saying so. Some folks are under the impression that you have to have a huge scope and a tiny target to shoot tiny groups. Not true. What you really need is a target matched matched to your sights. Something you can consistently bracket against. I guess it's counter-intuitive that you might get smaller groups with a bigger target.People have a preconceived notion that higher magnification will automatically result in smaller 100 yd. groups.
This whole deer season has been a failed experiment. Hate to think of slogging through 11 months to go through this BS again.
Seriously. Proly gonna get rid of some gear and try one more season. If it sucks again just quit.
Not worth getting hopes up for.
I used to hunt a very good chunk of ground, for alnost 2 decades. Then went through a few tough years and got on a little place that was mediocre at best. Then it got good.
Now w legal and illegal pressure and other nonsense around, it sucks.
Not worth my time, expense and most of all....emotion.
Has not been a fun year.
I think everyone but you knew what I meant use your binoculars or whatever to choose the animal you want but make make sure its the right animal with your scope and its a lot easier with a little more power.But it doesn't matter much because if a person wants a new straight tube or low powered variable they are rare birds now.The 36X scope remark was in jest, i.e.- a joke. If you want to use high magnification scopes on your 30-30, you certainly don't have to justify it with me or anyone else.
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Plus the OP is from Pa and Pa has antler restrictions much easier making sure your on the right deer with 6 or 7 power at the top.
People have a preconceived notion that higher magnification will automatically result in smaller 100 yd. groups. Maybe to a tiny degree, but not enough to matter. Use the proper target for the magnification of your scope and your groups will be practically the same as those shot with higher magnification. In the field I find little advantage in more magnification and in most circumstances, find it a huge disadvantage because of decreased field of view. Using the scope @cdb1 uses as an example, if he were to jump a deer or hog at 50 yds., at 6X his scopes FOV is less than 10', while it is over 25' at its lowest setting. Which would be better in that case? Did he remember to turn the power ring down, or is it still on 6X?
I personally have no interest in twisting magnification rings on scopes while I'm hunting. When I used to hunt elk hunt with my .280 Remington and it's Burris 3-9X, I'd leave the scope set on 3X or 4X. So when I built a dedicated elk hunting rifle, I skipped the variable all together and just went with a good quality 4X. And FWIW the bull before last that I shot was walking away at an angle at a lasered 360 yds. when I shot him. The 4X was more than enough and the bullet landed within inches of POA. Conversely, the last bull I shot was in a herd that walked across a trail in front of me at less than 50 yds. and at that range even the 4X scope was almost too much as I tried to find the bull in the jumble of elk.
There's not room for a scope with a larger objective on the .375. That old Weaver has been on the rifle since the '90's, so I know the setup well. Even if there were room for a larger powered scope, I'd not mount one as in my experience, it would be pointless on a rifle chambered for a 150 yd. cartridge.
Here's a really good article on scopes by one of my favorite writers.
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Yep,Bought a very nice looking Winchester Model 94 (1953) in .32 WS a while back. Love the cowboy look and nostalgic Americana-feel of it. But, as it turns out for me - it was an impractical idea to use for deer hunting. My 70 year old eyes were not able to adjust to and use the original iron sights. I then added Williams Fire Sights, better - but not close enough. I could have added a peep sight or scope but, A.- I don't want to ruin the gun with drilling, and B.- Such an add-on ruins the appeal of the gun to me. This, and recently I had my rigger pull weighed and it came it a scary one pound - too light, too light.
It is back to a scoped bolt action rifle for me. A while back, my wife with some good advice, from I am not sure who, bought me a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5x10 40mm. It is going back in the field with me next year.
Never too old to screw up - never too old to learn.
Huh??? If you go to Midway and search for rifle scopes with a power range starting at 1-1.5x, there's only 126 choices.But it doesn't matter much because if a person wants a new straight tube or low powered variable they are rare birds now.
Is that a top eject 94?If want to hunt with your newly acquired Winchester 94 and you can manage a “scout”/forward mounted scope arrangement Dr Pearson’s no drill scope mount for the Winchester model 94 may be the answer
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Yup. I've given up on open sights for rifle hunting. No matter how sharp your corrected vision is, after a certain age you can't adjust from seeing the front sight to seeing the target like you used to. I can still squeak by with a peep sight, but even that's getting marginal. I still hunt turkey with open fiber optic sights. I can put the green blur between the two red blurs well enough to hit a turkey with a shotgun, but for rifle work, it's time to use a scope.Bought a very nice looking Winchester Model 94 (1953) in .32 WS a while back. Love the cowboy look and nostalgic Americana-feel of it. But, as it turns out for me - it was an impractical idea to use for deer hunting. My 70 year old eyes were not able to adjust to and use the original iron sights. I then added Williams Fire Sights, better - but not close enough.
I think he voted for Biden.
.... That's why us old guys prefer Marlins. Mine has had a 1-4x Leupold on it since 2001. Although this year our shooting time is now 30 minutes before sunrise to 30 minutes after sunset so it now has a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x with an illuminated reticle to take advantage of any low light opportunities that may arise. Had the scope here not being used and figured with the extended shooting time I would need some help with low light conditions and old eyes. It's a woods gun so the scope will probably never go above 4X. When old eyes begin to become a factor it's time to gravitate to more scope friendly options if using lever guns.Can't shoot irons like I used to. That's why I picked a Marlin lever action, they are easy to scope