Called Remington Ammo Plant in Lonoke AR today for Update

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  1. Bull Nutria

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    Out of curiosity I called subject. Customer service lady was very helpful. She explained that they were shut down for several months but are now back in production but not full production in the next few months they should have there website back up and a toll free number to order ammo etc.
    good news for all Remington ammo users!!

    Bull
     
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  2. mcb

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    You meant Vista Outdoor ammo users... :p:D
     
  3. MechAg94

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    At the very least, it might start filling the black hole that is the ammo market demand right now.
     
  4. 3Crows

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    The Remington plant coming back on line (under Vista Outdoors ownership) will be a significant shot in the arm to ammo supplies.
     
  5. hanno

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    Good news if they start cranking out ammo.
     
  6. sabbfan

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    Hoped it’s a smooth ramp up, the production will be much appreciated.
     
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  7. JCooperfan1911

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    We need more shells.

    Period.
     
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    Good to hear.
     
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  9. DoubleMag

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    Now if they can find COMPONENTS to 'ramp up' that ammo production....CAPACITY. :cool:

    I guess there's a deep cave storage area, holding all that powder, bullets / shot, and lastly but not least, PRIMERS, just a-waiting for a factory to load into:cool:
     
  10. mcb

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    I believe Lonoke has the ability to make everything from raw materials except powder and priming compound. The can draw brass for cartridges, cups and anvils for primers, and cup for bullets. Finishing bullets with lead wire and swaging the cup and core. This all feeds the loading machines.

    ETA: Remington does mix it own priming compounds too.
     
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  11. George P

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    Here's hoping my favorite Nitro Golds start showing back up at Walmart for close to the previous price
     
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  12. JDeere

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    Good I do like their Golden Sabers in .45. They run well in my short barrel 1911s and were reasonably priced. Darn good thing I stocked up when the getting was good...
     
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  13. Mr. Zorg

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    Unless "old" Remington wrecked or ran the part for making explosive mixtures for primers into disrepair to the point of requiring total replacement, this document suggests the Lonoke AR facility had the ability to manufacture explosive mixtures for primers in 2012 and guessing that should still be the case except as I noted.

    "At the facility, Remington manufactures sporting ammunition, including shotshell, centerfire, rimfire ammunition and ammunition components. Manufacturing operations include metal forming, metal finishing, electroplating, plastic processing, ammunition loading and assembly operations, explosive manufacturing for primers, and primer assembly operations."

    Second page, under Findings of Fact, first sentence under item number 2. I didn't see much point in proceeding further.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.adeq.state.ar.us/downloads/webdatabases/legal/cao/lis_files/07-078.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwir3fSwzpvuAhVshq0KHVOpBXUQFjAEegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2t7TpxgxnUA56hyQzlGstd

    From a fundamental chemical process safety standpoint, that makes perfect sense vs shipping completed priming compound mixtures from point of chemical manufacturing to point of metallic primer assembly manufacturing.

    I know of some other process chemicals that were previously shipped around and stored in bulk, and that practice changed here in the US starting in the 1980's. A common example is ethykene oxide, used by our military along with propylene oxide, for thermobaric weapons including the Mother Of All Bombs (MOAB), which is quite dramatic.

    The typical use of ethylene oxide and propylene oxide is as a chemical intermediate, a stepping stone along the way, such as a step in manufacturing ethylene glycol and propylene glycol for the primary ingredient in modern motor vehicle antifreeze solutions. These days the equipment to make those glycols is part of the same chemical plant physical complex as the equipment that manufacturers those oxide precursors but such was not always the case.

    The university I obtained my Bachelors degree from was located in Kingsville, TX and a chemical plant was (and still is) outside nearby Bishop, TX. During a student society field trip to that plant in the late 1980's, I asked about a curious area that looked somewhat like a military bunker. It was explained that was now decommissioned storage tanks buried under multiple layers of concrete and earth that was previously used to store ethylene oxide manufactured at some other facility owned by that same company that was transported by railcars to this facility to further process into a finished product, but the equipment to make that finished product had been relocated to the plant that made the ethylene oxide intermediate. We were told if those storage tanks had ever exploded the town of Bishop would essentially have been leveled and at minimum no building in Kingsville would have an intact window.

    Intermediate bulk storage and transportation of chemical mixtures used for metallic cartridge priming compound would undoubtedly be to one degree or another similar in effect in case of a mishap with those bulk containers' storage contents, especially the transportation containers.
     
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  14. mcb

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    I believe you are correct. Remington does mix their own priming compounds. I miss-spoke in my earlier post.
     
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    Lonoke is a ammunition manufacturing plant capable of turning raw materials into a finished product as opposed to an ammunition assembly plant that purchases all components and simply does what most of us reloaders do, put the components into a finished assembly, just on an automated scale. Realizing the current shortage is partly political (use your imagination), partly legal (ATF telling retailers to lock guns and ammo up), partly human behavior (hoarding, scalping, panic buying, new gun owners) and partly resulting from production capacity (Covid 19, worker furloughs, closed plants) and raw material supplies (China buying everything plus Covid 19 and worker furloughs), we should not expect simply bringing the Lonoke plant back online will end this current ammo scarcity but it cannot hurt.
     
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    The Fiochi plant is right down the road and a Sig plant somewhere here in AR. I wonder what the status of them is?
     
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    Glad to hear that. The more ammo manufacturing going on the merrier!!
     
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    The Lonoke Plant is in the county that I live in. About 20 miles up the road. Theres been being a parking lot full of cars there every day. Its one of the better paying places in the area.

    I think they make all of the components that goes into ammo, but I'm not positive. I know people that work there and at least one of them has talked about tumbling bullet jackets and unloading lead ingots. A few retired people have Dupont stock in their retirement accounts. Makes me think they manufacture their own powder and primer compound. I know they have a ballistics lab on the property. And you can see the shot tower from a ways away.

    They badly need a sales force. None of the stores in the surrounding area have Remington ammo. I know they get a lot of work from various government agencies and Police Departments. Maybe they like the large sales better than the smaller local sales?

    I hope they manage to stay afloat.
     
  19. Mr. Zorg

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    The Lonoke AR facility doesn't manufacture smokeless powders / propellants for ammunition, and I don't think any of the other Vista Outdoors munitions plants manufacture smokeless powders / propellants.
     
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    Where are Alliant powders made?
     
  21. ColtPythonElite

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    I believe Alliant Powder is part of Vista Outdoors.
     
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  22. Mr. Zorg

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    The Lake City Munitions plant is not, and has never been, owned by Vista Outdoors, Alliant Powder, nor ATK, to the present time. The contract to operate that facility has been let to various comanies.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_City_Army_Ammunition_Plant

    Vista Outdoors was spun off from ATK back in 2015.

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vista-outdoor-successfully-completes-spin-off-from-atk-and-begins-trading-as-independent-company-300033149.html

    The portion of ATK that has been operating the Lake City Munitions plant was purchased by Northrop Grumman in 2018.
     
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  24. Mr. Zorg

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    Yes, but neither Vista Outdoors nor Alliant Powder nor ATK own the Lake City Munitions plant.

    Here's what I posted for clarity.

    Same for Radford VA Munitions plant.

    https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/radford-army-ammunition-plant

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radford_Army_Ammunition_Plant

    No ownership interest of that Munitions plant by Vista Outdoors, and it's operated by BAE Systems.
     
  25. ColtPythonElite

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    I am lost....I never mention Lake City and no nothing about it... All I said was Alliant is part of Vista and then followed up for Redddog81 that Alliant powder is made in Virginia.
     
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