Calling all Beretta Model 84 Cheetah Owners!

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Hi guys!

Have you tried the following rounds in your beretta Model 84 .380ACP pistol?

1) 95gr Fiocchi FMJ
2) 90gr Fiocchi JHP
3) 95gr Winchester USA
4) 85gr Winchester Silvertip

If you have, which ones feed well and which ones don't? Also, which of the above has the least felt recoil?
 
Have never bought any commercial ammo that the 84 would not feed.....When you find something let us know but don't hold your breath! :)
 
I've got the M85FS version of the Cheetah. Its the single stack version and its one of my carry pieces. I find it accurate, reliable and easily concealable.
 
I also have a Beretta 84 that I've put several brands of ammo through (hollow point and FMJ). I don't remember all the various brands and weights, but it has been 100% reliable.
 
Europeans load their .380 and 9x19mm hotter than we do. I'm sure the Beretta can take it.
 
My beretta 84 will feed just about anything. I carry silvertips in it and have never had a problem.

If you cannot get it to feed a round, then either the round is really buggered or your gun is buggered. Not sure which, but I have never seen an 84 jam in my over 20 years of dealing with them. Remember they used to be a lot more popular 'back in the day'.
 
How does the 84 compare in size to, say, a CZ PCR? I have always admired the looks of the Cheetah, and it seems like such a sweet little gun.
 
How does the 84 compare in size to, say, a CZ PCR?
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Well I have the slimmer, single stack M85FS Cheetah. Its slimmer and light enough to make a difference, but again is a single stack and only carries 8 + 1, while the PCR (my main carry) has 14 + 1.
 
rcmodel,
What part of the frame comes in contact with the guide rod? It seems to be captured by the barrel and the slide to me.
 
I bought my 84 back in 1978 and I've never had a problem feeding it anything. Of course, that was "back in the days" when I wasn't concerned about loads and +P and all that. I carry it in an ancient Bianchi shoulder holster that will also fit my carry Makarov like a glove.

Pilot- I just acquired a PCR. What holster do you use for it? I've searched everywhere and the best candidate for me right now is a Bianchi Black Widow. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
It is when you put it together, but it isn't when you shoot it.

Look inside the frame for wear marks.
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Now I'm really confused. Can you explain please, I'm just not understanding what you're saying, the mechanics of this I mean.
 
Do you see any wear or shiny marks inside the frame where the guide rod resides?

Maybe they have changed them sometime. I haven't worked on one in years.

Did you read the thread I linked in post #10?

rc
 
Did you read the thread I linked in post #10?
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Yes I read it. Be it didn't click with me. I even took my 84 apart to look for any area the guide bar would rub anything, but I'm not seeing where it could rub because it is held between the barrel lug and the slide front. Maybe I'm having a brain cramp, but I just don't see where the frame and guide rod come in contact. Thanks for your patience.
 
TripleL wrote:

Pilot- I just acquired a PCR. What holster do you use for it? I've searched everywhere and the best candidate for me right now is a Bianchi Black Widow. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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I have found that holsters designed for the Sig P228/P229 will usually fit the CZ PCR. The PCR is a little smaller than the P228 which I also own. I carry the PCR in a Bianchi Shadow II belt holster OWB. It fits very nicely. You can usually find these off the shelf at larger stores like Sportman's Warehouse.

HBE (Holsters by Eric) also makes some great CZ leather if you want to order one.
 
To rcmodel:

It's a tad bit disappointing that the beretta (Italian made) cannot handle fiocchi ammo (Italian made). Fiocchi's 95gr FMJ at 1010ft/s is the cheapest .380 ammo available in my country at US$0.22/rd. US made Blazer or Winchester FMJ costs substantially more at $0.29/rd.
 
It's a tad bit disappointing that the Beretta (Italian made) cannot handle fiocchi ammo (Italian made).
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Nobody said it couldn't handle it.

All Beretta firearms, including the 84 were designed & made to operate with European spec ammo. Which in a lot of cases is way warmer then American Wally-World bulk-pack.

All I meant to address is that folks should be aware of a potential problem after many thousands of rounds.

And as I also said, it's been years since I last had one apart.

They could have fixed the guide rod thing years ago for all I know.

rc
 
I just looked at my 1993 manufactured Beretta 84, and it looks like the end of the guide rod only contacts the flat surface of the takedown pin that rotates into position. It doesn't look like it contacts the frame at all.
 
It's a tad bit disappointing that the beretta (Italian made) cannot handle fiocchi ammo (Italian made).
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European ammo is rated by CIP, not SAAMI, and the Beretta 81 series is rated for factory CIP ammo, (which in many cases is loaded to higher pressure than SAAMI standards). Fiocchi ammo is A-OK in your Beretta.
 
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