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Calling all NEW YORKERS: your help is needed

Discussion in 'Activism' started by nyrifleman, Jan 16, 2012.

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  1. nyrifleman

    nyrifleman Member

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    I was asked to pass this along:

    Repealing the NYS ban on "high capacity" magazines

    Gun owners in Massachussetts have gotten the ball rolling repealing their state ban on "high capacity" magazines. It's time we New Yorkers did the same. This will take only a few minutes of your time. Also, please, please, please re-post this to as many forums as you can.

    First, go here to find your State Senator:
    http://www.nysenate.gov/nyss_senator_search/
    And here to find your State Assemblyman:
    http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?sh=search

    Second, write them the following letter. It is RECOMMENDED to print the letter, sign it and mail it by snail mail. This makes it much more likely to be read and paid attention to. If you don't have the time to do so, you can send it to your state legislators by e-mail.

    There are TWO versions of the letter. One is aimed at pro-gun legislators, while the other is aimed at anti-gun legislators (the majority, unfortunately).

    Letter to Pro-Gun legislators:
    Letter to Anti-Gun Legislator:
     
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  2. Hamish

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    <This is also a serious impediment for collectors interested in historical firearms that had magazines with a capacity higher than 10 rounds>

    I think this argument is pretty weak: if it is a historical firearm, I expect it would have been manufactured prior to 1994, and most likely there are magazines for it that were also manufactured prior to 1994, therefore making them exempt from the high capacity limit. A collector wouldn't be interested in new magazines for their historically accurate firearm. Someday, this may be an issue when firearms manufactured after 1994 are considered 'historical', but I doubt this argument (as it is written) will hold much sway now.
     
  3. ScrapMetalSlug

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    I like the idea, and it is good to contact your representatives, but I also think the letter for the anti- legislator needs some work. It almost sounds like the letter is saying it would be simpler if all mags over 10 rounds were banned so you didn't have to worry about the date of manufacture:banghead:

    The most relevant information is that the federal AWB didn't reduce crime, and violent crime continues to decrease even with the lifting of the federal ban. Stating that very few violent crimes involve long arms would be better (mostly handguns are used for gun crimes), and and even a smaller number of violent crimes involve high capacity mags in rifles.
     
  4. fishingman78

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    I agree with some of the other post that the letters need some work, especially the letter to the anti-gun legislator. Most anti-gun legislators do not care about the convenience. So, I would take out that entire paragraph for starters.

    They also will not care about your beliefs. I would research some data and show some hard numbers on the ineffectiveness of the such a ban. The paragraph with the above quote needs to be expanded.

    I like your efforts. However, I would rewrite the letters before submitting.
     
  5. nyrifleman

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    Thank you for the input, guys. I didn't write the letters, I was forwarded the above in an e-mail, and put it up here. But I think you've brought up good points, and I'll look at changing that.

    drsfmd: Yes. I'm dreaming if I think this will happen tomorrow, or in the next year, or even in the next five years. But if NY gun owners don't start getting up, making a stand, doing SOMETHING, things will only get worse. I've pro-gun friends in other countries who go to pro-gun demonstrations where 3 people show up -- and they're outnumbered 10-to-1 by the media.

    I know what will happen if I don't post the letter: nothing. But if I do post the letter, and one of the pro-gun representatives gets together the guts, and introduces a bill, and it gets some media attention, and some media debate... It'll be a move in the right direction.

    And if it never goes anywhere, all I'm out is $0.50 for the paper, envelope and stamp.
     
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    I'm disappointed that some overzealous moderator chose to delete my genuine and forthright comment.
     
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    Living in New York, I know how ridiculous the "High Capacity" ban is. And I would LOVE to see it done away with.

    But I dont think these letters sound like they will work. Especially not when only 10 send them. I might write up my own letter and send it... and we'll see what we can do.
     
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    Not sure why my reply to this thread was deleted, maybe a moderator misunderstood me, but to the OP, you have a typo.

    If you are asking people to copy and print out these letters, please proofread them.
     
  9. AirForceShooter

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    NYC and by attachment NYS are under attack for failure to recognize out of state permits. The time has never been more ripe for attacks on ther nys and nyc permiting and carry process.

    You're worried about magazines?

    This kind of thinking got me out of NY.

    AFS
     
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    I sent my letters, I also wrote another letter that applies to both pro and anti gun legislators. Here is it if anyone wants to use it.

    Please, even if you don't think it will work, send emails to your legislators. Every little bit helps, we can hope it will eventually have in impact and popular opinion as well as legal action is swaying toward our side.
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out, I've corrected it.
     
  12. nyrifleman

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    And I've made some changes to the letters. Thank you everyone for the input you've given me, and let me know if there are any other problems that you see.
     
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