Camping World Anti-Hunting, Boycott Em!

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We get between 30-50 "nuisance" tags each year to thin out our deer herd and protect row crops. We can shoot any deer standing in a crop field at any time of the day. Is that "ethical"? Not to some. Hunting over bait is unethical to some as is hunting an enclosure. Now I do scoff at people who hunt in a 5 acre enclosure on what I consider a "canned" hunt but come on down and we can walk a 1,000+acre enclosure in Alabama. I think you will soon find that deer can find a lot of hidey holes inside that fence. I have never personally been interested in going hunting in Africa but I am glad for those that love that aspect of the sport. I also am not at all interested in hunting black bear but I will not knock another hunter who enjoys it. A trophy is in the eye of the beholder. If the Trumps want to take African trophies then I applaud them.

I have always had a love/hate opinion of Donald Trump but he coined a phrase that I really like. "I have been rich and I have been poor, I would rather be rich".
 
Some years ago I heard about some Africian country and their elephants. Poachers everywhere killing, snaring and catching anyway they could. The DNR had planes but no gas for them. no money allotted.

What they did have was a sizable pile of elephant ivory. Did they sell/auction the ivory for gas moiney. NO -it was illegal to sell so the did get some gas and burned it all. So now-no gas and no ivory and lots of poaching.

Many areas of Africia, as noted are being overrun w/ elephant and they are eating themselves out of 'house and home'.
 
I know what carrying capacity is and obviously from my post, Art, I know that it is illegal to hunt apes, thats why I said IF it was legal. We don't all share the same opinions, so don't talk down to me as though I'm ignorant because my opinion differs from yours.
Contrary to the popular belief on THR, it is possible to be a gun lover, a hunter, a believer in humane treatment of animals, a "tree hugger", an atheist, a good person and a productive member of society all at the same time. I don't agree with trophy hunting, or shooting animals that are as intelligent as apes, elephants, dolphins, etc. That's my opinion. Humans are overpopulated too but I guess many here think birth control is wrong so, I guess we won't have to worry about those pesky elephants when people finally need to build impoverished villages on that land in the next 100 years.
 
I guess we won't have to worry about those pesky elephants when people finally need to build impoverished villages on that land in the next 100 years.
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What? H&H stated rather clearly how hunting is a positive influence on not only the Elephant populations but the local economy as well. I am not sure how that is a bad thing.
 
Humans are overpopulated too
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If everyone lived in a 4 human family unit and we all lived on 1/4 acre lots, all humans could live in Alaska.

The rest of the world would be EMPTY of human live.

Over populated?

That is really funny

Thread hijack?

Nope

When people don't think deeply about one thing, they rarely think deeply about others
 
Sorry, Weedy. I get a bit grumpy when too much extraneous stuff gets dragged in. The subject was about a boycott of Camping World.

So, either back to some discussion about their business needs or let's drop it completely.
 
Contrary to the OP, I don't see where Camping World is anti-hunting. They are pulling their ads because of the negative publicity spawned by the Trump-boys antics. They certainly did not come off as any sort of environmentally positive hunters. I wasn't thrilled with what I saw either, but given that they went by all the rules, got the permits, hopefully made effective shot, etc., then the only real issue for Camping World is the image the Trumps portrayed when Camping World thought was less than positive. As a business, pulling your ads from a program that portrays a negative image really can me a smart move, or one to keep the negative impact from affecting their customer's perception of the business.

Just look at all the companies that dropped Rush Linbaugh after his comments sparked such a negative reaction.

Where I do have a problem with Camping World is dropping their advertising from Donald Trump's show based on the actions of his adult kids. I never liked the show and may not be up on it, but his kids aren't part of the show, are they? Trump, sr.'s comments supporting his sons were not what I would consider to be that much of a big deal. I don't even like Donald, sr., but I think Camping World is pulling its ads for the wrong reason and that just isn't right.
 
I don't see where Camping World is anti-hunting.
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"I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them."
Marcus Lemonis Camping World CEO


Seems pretty anti-hunting to me
 
a believer in humane treatment of animals,
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Weedy,

Yet you support through your opinions on elephant hunting or the cessation rather, the total annihilation of elephants in wild country?

No sport hunting dollars, no poacher protection, no wild open land, no wild elephants.

How is that humane treatment?
 
What we have here is a company that is making a business decision and supporting that decision by pulling advertising dollars and by publishing comments from the CEO who is apparently a bit liberal. They are making this decision based on what their PR people believe to be in the best interest of the company. It is up to the people who do not support these views to "vote" by boycotting, corresponding, etc, to make certain the company knows that their decision will cost them money. Ultimately most businesses will follow the dollars. If the majority of the feedback on this decision is positive then they will feel comfortable with their decision and vice versa.

I refuse to do business with Citgo unless absolutely necessary and will tell any of their store personnel exactly why I am buying $5 when I need $75 worth of gas. I just need to get to a store that is not supporting the Communist government of Chavez so $5 will do the trick. Does the worker behind the counter care? No! But occasionally the owner is behind the counter and I like him to see my money walking out the door.

I refuse to do business with CVS unless necessary. When they came out and pulled their advertising from Glenn Beck a couple of years ago I made the decision to spend my money elsewhere and I tell everyone I know exactly why. I am no longer a big fan of Beck but CVS was, in my opinion, making the wrong decision.

I stopped donating to the Kommen cancer research when I found that they were a big supporter of abortions. I still believe that breast cancer research is worthy but I now go through other avenues to donate. I strongly support cancer research just not at the expense of my beliefs on abortion.

Make sure you let Camping World know that you do not approve of their strategy and that you will spend your dollars elsewhere. That is the ONLY thing that will change their decision and I promise you that PETA is bombarding them with support right now.
 
Those of you that have issues with hunting and or shooting of game animals over feeders may wish to consider this. I have been a member of a lease in central Texas for several years. While we do take trophy animals we also selectively cull certian animals. We also feed these animals year round. The population of deer on our lease has actually increased over the years. This is referred to as management. It is expensive, we have 20 feeders that cost us close to $1000. per feeder, per year. The animals are healthier and more productive. Had we not fed as much over the past few years. We would most likely have no animals at all to hunt.
 
"I am totally disgusted by the [hunting] pics I have seen and was surprised to see them."
Marcus Lemonis Camping World CEO
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Seems pretty anti-hunting to me
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Really? So because the guy didn't like what the Trumps were doing you think that he is against all hunting?

So if you don't like how a cop goes about his job, does that mean you are against law enforcement?

We have forum members here who are hunters who don't approve of how other forum members hunt, but would you call the non-approving members anti-hunting?

Claiming that the guy is anti-hunting because he didn't like how the Trumps went about their hunt is quite a naive stretch.
 
Claiming that the guy is anti-hunting because he didn't like how the Trumps went about their hunt is quite a naive stretch.
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The Trumps hunted legally.

They went to an area. Got a guide and the proper permits. They shot game.

What is there not to like unless you are anti-hunting?
 
Weedy,
Yet you support through your opinions on elephant hunting or the cessation rather, the total annihilation of elephants in wild country?
No sport hunting dollars, no poacher protection, no wild open land, no wild elephants.
How is that humane treatment?
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So you're saying that hunting is the only source of revenue for conserving wildlife? Give me a break. I know you may think you're the final word on African wildlife conservation, but you can't tell me about how I need to be "educated" when I guarantee that you don't know the entire story yourself. No one does. So I shouldn't believe everything I read in National Geographic huh? So what news do you read that is so very credible? I guess since you've been hunting in Africa you know everything about the politics and strategies for managing the wildlife there. Ok. And if the villagers need the meat so badly, maybe they need to stop reproducing like rabbits.


If everyone lived in a 4 human family unit and we all lived on 1/4 acre lots, all humans could live in Alaska.
The rest of the world would be EMPTY of human live.
Over populated?
That is really funny
Thread hijack?
Nope
When people don't think deeply about one thing, they rarely think deeply about others
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You want to talk about some flawed logic, there ya go. The fact is that we DONT all live in Alaska. And overpopulation has nothing to do with availability of land, but with depletion of resources. Every human being could live in Alaska, but we would still pump pollutants into the air and water, burn down the Amazon for cropland and trawl all the fish out of the oceans. I've been called a "tree hugger" on THR before (among other things); I say wake up. And don't tell me about thinking deeply, maybe if you had thought deeply about your comment you would have seen how ridiculous it is.


I could care less how intelligent they are if they provide a ton of meat.
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Wow, so where would you draw the line then huh? How intelligent would something need to be for you to not want to kill it? If it were legal to go shoot chimps would you be ok with shooting them? What if Neanderthals were still around, would they be ok to shoot, since they aren't Homo sapiens? Maybe the whole Mai Lai situation was ok because the victims didn't speak English. Where do you draw the line?
 
So Weedy, just what makes the grade for YOU to go kill it? Who are YOU to judge? You say you hunt right? So just what gives you this all knowing attitude? Deer aren't as smart as an Elephant so it's OK to kill it? I think you need to seriously evaluate your own bull crap before spewing it out at others.

And I can tell you what makes H&H an "authority" on African hunting. It's because the man has been there hunting for a LOT of years. He is an authority because he has LIVED it! Not just read it in some book like MOST of you little tree hugging girlies. When you actually know about what you are talking about, give us a shout. Until then, keep your trap shut and you may actually learn a thing or 2.
 
I can't believe anyone would use intelligence as a metic by which to decide whether to kill or not kill another animal. What absurd, artificial, and elitist balderdash!

CUTENESS is the ONLY legitimate standard by which that decision can be rendered!
 
but with depletion of resources
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What resources are being depleted?

The known oil reserves are going up.

We have more board feet of lumber now that when we landed on Plymouth Rock (all types of tree except beechwood...damn u Budweiser!!!)

And what is more renewable than these biodegradable, free range critters?

One has to wonder why you don't think that others have the right to manage their own herds of wildlife.

Your arrogance is staggering.
 
Dang, Sam! We all know that Bambi is too cute to shoot! Same for bunny rabbits, squirrels, quail, wood ducks...

Elk? Too majestic.

Meese are okay, probably. Hogs, yeah; they're yougly.

Possums are sorta ugly, and I've heard they go well with yams.

Humph. Enough. We all pretty much have better things to do.

Or danged well ought to, anyhow. :D
 
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