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can having a foid card prevent you from getting a job?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BrotherIron, Apr 5, 2010.

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  1. BrotherIron

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    I want to take my girlfriend shooting at the nicer of my local ranges, but they require each person to possess a foid card. I told her to send in and get one ASAP so we can go shooting. but she is in the process of trying to find a career and doesn't want anything to stop her from getting a job. she is worried that if some employers find out she has a foid, they may think she is a gun nut or something and not hire her (we live in the ridiculous gun hating state known as Illinois). I think i already know the answer to this question, but can having a foid card prevent you from getting a job? do employers even have the ability to know if you have one? why would it even be an issue? I told her she would simply be exercising her 2nd amendment rights and that no one should be penalized for it, but I wanted to see what you guys/gals would think.

    thank you in advance for your replies.
     
  2. David E

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    Used to live there........

    I wouldn't worry in the least about having a FOID card keeping me from getting a job. I don't think they can access that kind of info. Even if they could and denied me a job as a result, I wouldn't want to work for them, anyway.
     
  3. RevolvingGarbage

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    Oh how different our two states are...

    Here in Florida, requiring someone to have an ID card to own a gun would be a felony as it would create an illegal registry of gun owners. Even if that wasn't illegal, we have laws that make it a crime to deny employment to people holding CCW or Armed guard licenses, as well as making it a crime to inquire in any way to a prospective employee whether or not they have a firearm in their vehicle.

    Sorry if that was a bit off topic, wish I had more information to help!
     
  4. joe_security

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    Tell her to hide that foid card in the back of her wallet. My friends in Chicago tell me that the police there may search people and vehicles upon seeing the foid card.
     
  5. zoom6zoom

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    If you're in Mass., the card is required just to have OC spray, doesn't necessarily mean the holder is a gun owner.
     
  6. BrotherIron

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    so basically no one can prevent hiring her because of possessing a FOID. thats basically what it comes down to. i would hate for some far left winged liberal to see that she has one and deny her of a job opportunity
     
  7. BCCL

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    If she doesn't tell them she has one, they have no way of knowing.
     
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    Ummm. Whats a FOID
     
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    Firearms Owners ID card.
     
  10. rattletrap1970

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    Ahh, I see. What state requires that?
     
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    That is 100% correct ---- I have had a valid IL. FOID card for the last 35-40 years and have LOTS of jobs --- NONE knew if I was a firearm owner UNLESS I TOLD THEM !!!
     
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    RattleTrap ---- In Illinois , you must have a FOID card issued from the Il. State Police to own or posses a firearm OR AMMO. Just a way for the State to jip a few more dollars from us.
     
  13. The_Pretender

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    Let's think about that a second... These gun owners of Illinois most certainly have jobs. There are members of the Illinois house and Senate that posses them.

    Have you ever had an interview where you were asked if you owned guns?

    I've had jobs where I am somewhat hesitant to bring it up when people ask me what I like to do or the subject comes up. However, I've made a lot of new friends by this subject coming up.

    You should never have to feel like an outcast or a criminal for exercising your God given, Constitution-recognized/protected right.

    I honestly wouldn't sweat it. Takes over six weeks for it to arrive anyway. Plenty of time to get a job. :)

    EDIT: Better check into that range's rules and make sure that isn't just referring to the guy/girl showing up wanting to shoot. It is perfectly legal for someone that does not have a card to shoot in the presence of someone that does. Ranges usually throw a fit more about non-members. But immediate family, in my experience, is usually permitted.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you can take the girlfriend to the range and shoot "your" guns without her having a foid. Without one she can't rent the ranges nor purchase ammo or have ammo in her possession.

    Rikman
     
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    I've been an IL resident since birth. I've never heard of anyone having any employment issues as the result of having been issued an FOID.
     
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    NO she can not --- at least at any local Chicago-land ranges --- if she is shooting YOUR firearm , she IS IN possession of it !!! And at most gun shops -- you CAN NOT even pick up a gun to examine it without a FOID card --- YES , IT IS A VERY STUPID LAW !!!
     
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    Living in that state must really be taxing to ones mental health.
     
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    Nobody knows you have a FOID unless you tell them. I live in IL and the only time anyone knows is if they see it.

    Tell her to get it, leave it at home and not carry it with her unless she needs it.

    No police background check or anything will identify her as a gun owner, as the FOID doesn't require a gun purchase to get it - so for all anyone knows, she just has the card so she can plink with her friend's .22 at the range once in awhile.

    It's really not anything to worry about...at least as far as a job search.
     
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    Would also make one heck of a nice payday after the discrimination lawsuit was over and done. But you'd have to have proof that was the reasoning behind it. Otherwise they could just make up some reason and get away with it.

    Wyman
     
  20. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Since firearms owners aren't a protected class under any state or federal law, what would be the grounds for the suit? Perhaps Illinois has some laws I am unaware of, but as EEO laws wouldn't apply, I'm not sure what the basis of the suit would be. Not that any employer would give that as a cause for not hiring someone.
     
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    I would wager if an employer had a certain agenda and somehow knew anything that went against his agenda then, yes, they might deny you the job for that reason. It would be illegal but since when has that stopped employers from hiring their buddies instead of someone who was actually qualified.

    Point is, it can happen and there is nothing you can do about it.

    I think I have been turned down a number of times for things even more trivial than a FOID card (or in my case a CWL).
     
  22. BCCL

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    Yes, she can shoot at a range if you are with her or someone else is, that is over 21 and has a valid FOID.

    430 ILCS 65 FOID Information

    (15) A person who is otherwise eligible to obtain a
    Firearm Owner's Identification Card under this Act and is under the direct supervision of a holder of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card who is 21 years of age or older while the person is on a firing or shooting range or is a participant in a firearms safety and training course recognized by a law enforcement agency or a national, statewide shooting sports organization; and
     
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    The employer does not know you have an FOID unless they either steal your wallet or you tell them. If the FOID comes up on a criminal background check (which employers will do) that is ridiculous and I would say worth a case in court against the State of Illinois.
     
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    I don't think I would stay in a state like that when you can live in America not too far away.
     
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    FOID card, really!!!! How can that be legal? Thank god I live in AZ:D How many states/counties require this?
     
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