can someone recommend me a cheap, reliable autoloader

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Low cost and reliable

An oxymoron

Not really, like I said, for low cost and reliability get a Hi Point.

My Kimber SIS Ultra has jammed twice in about 2,000 so far.

My friend's Hi point 45 has never jammed with a lot more rounds than that.
 
price-range is 200-350. A tokarev's an interesting suggestion. whats fair value ona Tok?



Considering a Hi-Point anyway as well.
 
I found an police turn in used Smith 4506-1. I'd recommend a good used piece in the Smith 645 family.

45 Auto and will literally feed an empty case. Very solid stainless steel piece made heavy and strong. Needs just basic cleaning and maintenance. They were used for police carry for many years.

Also, mine is still quite accurate with amazingly smooth SA and DA trigger pulls especially for an auto.

My Smith ain't purty with some holster rash but she shure shoots good. And got her for under $400.

Tom
 
I've nothing against HiPoint...I even owned a HiPoint 9mm carbine, and it was great. But, a mil-spec tough Tokarev or CZ82 blows a HiPoint pistol out of the water.
The Tok is very slim, and compact in the grip. It CCW's beautifully. It has decades of use in the toughest combat conditions of the 20th century. It uses Brownings design. How could anybody pass that up for a HiPoint??
 
i say get a hi-point c9, there not that big or heavy and are quite reliable. my c9 eats all kinds of ammo and has never jammed and if you ever have a problem with it you can send it to the factory and they will fix it for free and send you a spare mag.
 
I would go with the Hi-point since if you ran out of ammo you could use it as a club to beat something to death.:D
Ha!!

Another vote for High Point. They are ugly as sin already so you won't mind it getting beat up. A few battle scars might improve the looks.
 
Yeah, go for the HiPoint...Why would anyone want an all steel Browning-action pistol made mil-tough shooting a high velocity cartridge known for it's penetration and laser-like trajectory (tokarev)?
 
why anybody would pick a hi-point over a cz-82 or tokarev is beyond me. the tokarev is more fun to shoot and easier to conceal, but your only carry option is condition 3. cz-82 gives you the choice of conditions 1 or 2 for carry.
 
For what its worth. I would stay away from anything in .380. The ammo is damn near impossible to find unless you are willing to pay very high prices. These days I think it costs me less to shoot a .45.
 
Romanian Tokarev. They are about $200. They are utterly reliable. They are accurate out to 100yds. The ammo is cheap by the case, and the 7.62x25 round is incredible.
I would take a tok over any HiPoint (nothing against HiPoint.
Second this thought...
 
I wish handguns were as cheap out here as some of you folks are saying...the cheapest I've seen a Tokarev for was $180 a few weeks ago, and it was a broken Norinco clone.

Finding a handgun out here for under $200 limits you to hi-point (which is the only option in this group I'd consider) and the usual SNSs.
 
I don't know if the 92 is the best design if you're going to put tens of thousands of rounds thru it, but that doesn't sound like your intended use here.

I have a PT99AF (same gun with adj sights) I bought in 1988. I've got at least 20K rounds thru it and the only problem was the rear sight leaf broke. I had carried it as a duty gun for about 4-5 years so it had gotten banged around more than once.

They're pretty durable at least to my experience.
 
Yeah, go for the HiPoint...Why would anyone want an all steel Browning-action pistol made mil-tough shooting a high velocity cartridge known for it's penetration and laser-like trajectory (tokarev)?
Tokarev minuses: Unusable safety catch, hatred of the Commies who used them to murder democratic dissidents, harder to find ammunition than commonly available 9mm, .380 and .45 ACP, .30 caliber pistol round not going to be heavy enough for serious work, uncomfortable grip angle.

Hi-Point minuses: The .40's slide isn't enough to handle the high SAAMI pressures of the .40 Smith and Wesson cartridge, tiny safety lever, no cool war crimes history against Americans and anti-Communist resistance.

I'll pick the Hi-Point, thanks.
 
You can certainly hate commies for their crimes, but you can't hate the Tokarev...I prefer to remember the hordes of NAZI's and their puppets who fell to the 7.62x25 spewing from Tokarevs and PPSh 41's (is that heavy enough serious work for you?). I also like to think of a friend of mine who picked one up in Vietnam and found it to be an excellent combat pistol. Ammo is not hard to find...a phone call to AIM Surplus and I had 1200rds in a spam can three days later. Uncomfortable grip angle? After shooting a mag or two, the Tok points like a finger. It is one of the easiest carrying full-size service handguns I have ever packed. The true safety of the Tok is the half-cock notch on the hammer.
 
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