Continuation of "What is the most dead solid reliable pistol autoloader design ever?"

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Here again is it the craftsman's tools or is it the craftsman himself that provides quality results?

Take just about any one of these autopistols that we bloggers keep debating the relative merits of, keep it maintained, cleaned & lubricated, use quality magazines with it & load good quality ammunition in it, give it to a competent pistolsmith for repairs, or to add improvements such as a better trigger and sights, practice and train faithfully with it, and you can pretty much fill in the blanks with any of these "solid reliable pistol (autoloader) designs".

This stuff isn't exactly rocket science, now is it? - skeeter_08
 
A revolver hehehe ,autos and reliable ,,, Most DA autos after you have fired a bunch of the ammo you plane on carry'n .Look what the leo's carry in your area. hk's ,sig's, cz, witness, rugers might be the strongest all work pretty darn well now a days other than 1911's.
 
I've owned somewhere between 70 and 90 handguns in the last 40 years.
The only ones I've had zero failures with are the Glock 17 & 19, a CZ75 SA 9mm, an XD .45, several Dan Wesson revolvers and ....... that's it.

Every 1911 (about 20 of them), 3 BHPs, a S&W M-19 and a M-29, a Ruger GP100 DAO, various Colt revolvers, TC Contenders and all .22s have failed one way or another.

Many custom silhouette pistols have failed, but that's to be expected. They were handmade experimental guns, after all.

I carry a Glock 19 every day.
 
Browning High Power This design is adopted and used by more militaries worldwide than any other auto pistol design. The Browning is 9mm and .40S&W.
 
The most reliable semi auto I have had has been a Smith 5906. It seems to be extremely forgiving of all types of abuse.
 
I believe Glock makes a very reliable semi auto and I also believe a WELL BUILT WELL MAINTAINED 1911 is a very reliable semi auto. I know others might not agree, but this is my oppinion and these are what I carry on a daily basis.
 
Back in the 80s, I did a hell of a lot of research on that subject, since it was my money and my life. I bought a Walther P5- the final development of the P38 which had a great deal of development time, german craftmanship and engineering, and the stamp of approval of the West German government post-Munich.

The next two guns I bought were HK USPs. That's for TEOTWAWKI combat.

The only other brands I would buy are Glock and SIG.

I own 3 Walthers; the PP for social occasions, like Embassy balls, the P5, and a P1. I am thinking of the PPS.

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I've owned quite a few semi-autos. Many were the same model, just different years. I.e. I've had 3 1911A1; 2 Rugers; etc... By far, without a doubt; the best and most reliable semi-auto I've ever had is my SigSauer P220 45acp. Whether it's mine or many others I shot; they ALL were perfect. They shoot sweet brand new out of the box. Double action is great. Decocker is fantastic. It never jams. It will shoot any ammo I feed it. I've found enjoyment out of every gun I've ever owned. But the P220 wins hands down. The only gun I would even consider ahead of it; If the scenario was one of those where you could only have one gun and other variables; would be my S&W Model 13-1 357 magnum. But as for semi-auto's; that's a no brainer. In my opinion, the sig P220 is probably in the top 5 guns ever built.
 
Practically anything made by Glock, H&K, Sig, or CZ will be About as reliable as any semi-auto could hope to be.
 
My guess is that it's not a locked breech gun at all. I'd say that a blowback is going to win this contest. Something like the Makarov, perhaps.
 
Winston Smith:

Jawohl, mein Herr ... and a +1 on your comments on the P5. A lot of firearms technology has come and gone in the intervening years, but it's still tough to top the technology that went into that design.
 
My old Walther P1, believe it or not, is very reliable.

I've made an XD45 hiccup with light target handloads, but not with anything standard. That's true of any semiauto, though: loads for which it's not designed may not work. I'd call it EXTREMELY reliable with standard or hot ammo.

The Ruger Mark II series gets the nod from me, though. My 22/45 is so reliable it's ridiculous. I've topped 1500 rounds straight without any hiccups, and without cleaning.

Mil-spec 1911s are very reliable. However, many 1911s out there are modified for other purposes, and tightening everything up for extreme accuracy does cost you in terms of extreme reliability.
 
You are trying to take the "human" element out of the equation but I think it is the most important consideration.

If you don't take care of your tools, or if you bugger it up with useless and unnecessary upgrades, any pistol will fail.
 
The question was most reliable design, The answer has to be striker fired polymer frame. You choose the MFG. I like Glock but do not claim superiority to XD's or M&Ps or even 24/7s. It is the design that is rock solid reliable.
 
In my limited experience, I've only used three pistols extensively enough to have an opinion.

Issued HKp7 m13 9mm, carried on duty 9 years, thumbs down.

1911 Colts 45 acp, my personal handgun carried on duty for six years. I don't unload my duty handgun at the end of a shift, I'm on call. Duty and off duty and bug are always hot. I went to clear my 1911 to show it to a friend and found I could not disengage the safety. The housing that holds the safety and slide stop plungers had come lose from the frame and allowed the plunger to slide over the safety and under the thumb shelf, locking the safety. I had carried it for 4 shifts since I had shot it. How long I was with out a working pistol I don't know, 1 hour or 4 days? I never carried that pistol again. (and there had be other minor issues with it) I was angry at myself and angry at the 1911. It reinforced my belief in a BUG.

I've carried Glocks (G21, G23, G32 and bugs G27 & G33), both personal and department issued, for the last 8 years with no issues.

So GLOCK in my experience.
 
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