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Can we re-visit the lasix discussion?

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  1. george burns

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    How are your eyes doing after surgery, I am deciding which type to get, and could use some input. It's a pretty big decision, as far as which type to get and what the success rate and touch up percentage is.
    How did yours work out and would you do it again, also what if any new procedures like implants, have you found, thanks. Also after 65 is it still viable?
    George
     
  2. Schwing

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    I have not had it... and I am glad. About 6 years ago, 4 work buddies decided they had had it with glasses and got it done. I was convinced as well but was caught up in the recession and didn't have the $.

    Today, all of them are back in glasses and regret having it done.
     
  3. Ed Ames

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    Sixish years here and completely happy. And yes, it did improve my group sizes when shooting. Would do again.

    I think - as with anything - you need to research the best procedure for you. Depending on your dilated pupil size you may be a candidate for any of the variations or you may be prone to night vision issues with some of the machines due to the diameter of your pupil being larger than the corrected area of the lens (as I understand it). I've read that PK is more robust in some extreme conditions so if you plan extreme mountain climbing maybe go PK.
     
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    Well, my wicked astigmatism was 99% corrected and I can now buy off the shelf readers if I need to. It has been 8 years and I'm satisfied.
     
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    Wife was -6.50 when we met.... she needed readers about 15yrs later and then another 5 yrs and she needed -.75

    Shes very happy. She was just hoping to only need thinner glasses back then.

    20 yrs ago, they were still mostly doing the knife method...... lasers were still kinda new.
     
  6. Bobson

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    Is "Lasix" actually different from "Lasik," or did the OP mislabel the procedure?

    I have several extended family members who got Lasik around ten years ago (they all got it done within about a month of each other). All used the same doctor in southern California. All of them are still happy with it and have never needed to go back to glasses/contacts.

    Don't take this as an endorsement. I know absolutely nothing about the procedure. Just saying what my family members experienced.
     
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    I had mine done about 7 years ago. My eyes are still doing great. I wasn't a shooter before so I can't compare before and after lasik.
     
  8. scallop

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    Had mine 12 or so years ago, distance is still good, close up is now fading, but that is probably due to aging. By close I mean very small details require cheaters now. Reading distance is still fine.

    I would do it again tomorrow. I had 20/200 or so before and needed glasses or contacts to discern facial features from across a table. Those that do not have vision problems cannot comprehend the magic of sight without corrective lenses of some sort.
     
  9. CWL

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    I had lasik done 15 years ago. Best money I've ever spent on myself. It was such a positive experience that I still remember everything about it.

    Before eye surgeries, my eyes were -8.0 & -8.5, too blind to read the alarm clock next to my bed. If I lost my glasses or contacts, I couldn't see my way home. Bad eyes kept me out of the military (only option before Lasik was risky RK process).

    Checked-in at ~ 3 PM, took about 10 minutes to do both eyes, they bandaged me up and my friend took me home. Went to bed with a valium and woke up at 9AM the next morning with perfect vision the first time in my adult life. By 10AM, I was hitting golf balls and watching that little white ball sail downrange clearly the first time with my own sight.

    As I get older, my eyes are developing monovision. Left eye is farsighted and right eye is near sighted. Eye doc says that's a useful development but I'm right-handed and now need to use my left eye for front sight firearms aiming.

    Still the best money I've ever spent on myself. No regrets at all.

    Only advice is that you go to a qualified eye surgeon and not let some newly minted optometrist with a leased lasik machine do the work just to save a few bucks. That's how most of the problems occur.
     
  10. commygun

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    Had LASIK 7 years ago and it's been a miracle. Yes, you are still going to need reading glasses as you age, but at least you're not going to need reading glasses and contact lenses. The really good news is that at some point late in life, you're probably going to need cataract surgery. With the great multifocal lenses they're constantly improving, you're not going to need any vision aids.
     
  11. JSH1

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    I had Lasik surgery done 7 years ago when I was 29. I don't remember which machine was used but I am happy with the results. I was very nearsighted (-6) and now I am still 20/20 in both eyes. My wife also had it done and she is 20/15 and her night vision improved. No touch-up required for either of us and our only regret is not having it done earlier so we would have more years without glasses.

    Lasik does nothing to correct the natural aging process that requires reading glass as we age. The surgeon was very clear about that. Age related farsightedness (Presbyopia) is not caused by the shape of the eye but instead is caused by a loss of flexibility in lens. The eye can no longer bend the lens enough to focus on close objects. People that have Lasik surgery can expect to need reading glasses sometime in their 40's just like anyone else.

    There is a Lasik solution to eliminate the need for reading glasses but it isn't for everyone. What they do is burn one eye for distance and one for reading. After a short period of time the brain adjusts to use the correct eye. My surgeon recommended anyone thinking of having this procedure done to test it with contacts first. Some people just don't adapt and get persistent headaches.

    Would I have Lasik surgery at 65? That depends. For someone very nearsighted like I was, yes, because I was helpless without my glasses. I can deal with needing reading glasses.
     
  12. MedWheeler

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    Lasix can also be an issue for shooters as well. It's a diuretic, a class of medications that prevents or relieves fluid buildup in the lungs in congestive-heart-failure (CHF) patients. It has a few other applications, and works by essentially pulling fluids from the tissues and sending it to waste.

    So, it makes you have to pee a lot. Try doing that on the range, with all your guns and gear splayed out on the bench.. :D
     
  13. Sav .250

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    Had it done 3 yrs ago......................... it`s a no brainer! What a difference!!! :)
     
  14. Uncle Richard

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    Had my surgery 3+ years ago, and don't regret it at all. Couldn't be happier with the results (20/15). Yes it has made shooting more comfortable with the fact that I don't have to wear contact lenses. My eyes and contacts would become dry when wearing safety glasses, which made my site picture blurry. Improving my vision definitely improved accuracy.

    Side note....I had RPK at Lasik Institute in Pittsburgh and recommend the facility/dr's. They have it set up so you can watch other people get the surgery. It made me a bit nervous knowing what was going to happen during surgery; however, you can't tell. You feel some pressure and that's it.
     
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    I decided against it. With age comes presbyopia, an inability to focus on close objects. It's why one may need reading glasses. My understanding is that lasik surgery can't solve that problem--or, if you have the surgery done to focus in close, you lose your ability to focus at a distance. One solution is mono-vision: have one eye tuned for distance and the other for up close (my wife does this with her contacts). Not for me, though; as an outdoorsman, I want my eyes to work together.

    Were I younger, I might consider lasik--my son did, and he's quite happy with it. But now that I'm closer to 60 than 50, I have settled on progressive lens eyeglasses for general wear, and standard bifocals for hunting (they do a better job with peripheral vision).
     
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    I understand it can fis astigmatism also, any guys have experience with that. I went to an Ophthalmologist who performed 9000 of these procedures here in FL. Dr Obrien, last year, he said to wait. But now a year later I see a noticeable difference in the definition of objects, and the brightness. That's why I am starting to think it's time to re-visit him. I have read that the "HALO" problem, "which I have" can't be fixed, and actually gets worse along with night vision and gaging distance. I easily passed my drivers license test with no glasses, and am wondering if it's a waste of time for me. The distance of the front sight in correlation to the rear sight has become blurry, and I can't focus on both the target and the sights without glasses, so I am assuming from what I have read, it's not going to help that much if at all.
     
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    If you are late 50's plus consider waiting - and just get lens replaced for 20.20 vision if you have History of cataracts in family.... going from legally blind w/o glasses to The 20.20 is GREAT!
     
  18. OcelotZ3

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    Had mine done 15 years ago and it changed my life. Have to use reading glasses now due to age but I don't need glasses for anything else.
     
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    Ditto to CWL I also have that monovision problem but I had thought it was computer and cell phone related. It affects my shooting a little.

    Best money I ever spent.
     
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    I posted a series of progress reports after I had mine done at the end of January -- I still could not be happier.
     
  21. Carl N. Brown

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    Lasix (aka Furosemide) is a diuretic drug (kidney and urinary tract).

    LASIK or Lasik (Laser-Assisted in SItu Keratomileusis) is laser eye surgery for the correction of myopia and astigmatism.

    (The reason I know is my wife had both the start of cataracts and urinary problems. There was a mixup in fall of 2010 when she called her doctor's nurse for a renewal of her Furosemide Rx and the nurse insisted she come in for a Lasix test.)

    On topic: for cataracts I had lens replacement via under-the-knife surgery which also corrected astigmatism. Also, the lense replacement converted me from farsighted (requiring "driving" glasses) to normal distance vision, but nearsighted (needing reading glasses for close up).

    I have heard both praise and complaints from other people who had eye surgery. I have removed the 'scopes from a couple of my .22 rifles and use them with iron sights.
     
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    Lasix (aka Furosemide) is a diuretic drug (kidney and urinary tract).

    LASIK or Lasik (Laser-Assisted in SItu Keratomileusis) is laser eye surgery for the correction of myopia and astigmatism.



    (The reason I know is my wife had both the start of cataracts and urinary problems. There was a mixup in fall of 2010 when she called her doctor's nurse for a renewal of her Furosemide Rx and the nurse insisted she come in for a Lasix test.)
     
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    Did thorough research and found my doctor in the Pennysaver. He even honored an expired coupon. Unfortunately he was not a good doc. I have to wear an eye patch. Arrrrrrhhhh
     
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    Had mine done in 2000 at the University of South Carolina hospital by one of the pioneers in the procedure. I could not get the mono vision as I've always had a lazy eye so I had mine done to get distance vision. I paid a bit more but I was very happy and had 10 good years before age caught up with me and the eyes started to go again...
     
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