should i talk about firearms during office visit/interview?

[shooterfromtexas]

well, i recently interviewed with one of the big acct firms for internship position and was invited to office visit after hearing back from them recently. i am not sure what goes on during the office visit besides being yourself.

bringing up firearm topics a good or bad idea? i would really like this internship and dont want to lose the opportunity.

if no firearm discussion, what other type of questions should be asked? how do you get a conversation going?

at gunshows, it is so easy to start one up. same goes it for school activities.

any help appreciated. anyone here work for big4 or mid market firm?

 

[Dragk913]

I would not bring it up, unless someone else does. But even then, don't go into too much detail.
Personally, I don't like other people knowing what I have (call me paranoid) and I've noticed a lot of people are anti-gun or have been so influenced by the mass media - that all gun owners are tinfoil hat wearers and have a bunker, stockpiled with 7892348974789598734 rounds and grenades and are getting ready to overthrow the gov.

But that's just my opinion.



Good Luck!

 

[Grizfire]

I would avoid it unless an opportunity presents itself. You may talk about hunting as a way in about firearms, as you may want to know the company's stance on these subjects.

 

[Rembrandt]

Don't ask....don't tell.

Do you have more to gain.....or more to loose by doing so?

 

[61chalk]

Until you find out who loves guns, an who hates them...keep a low profile.

 

[shooterfromtexas]

yes, you guys are right about that.

if I dont mention guns, what is a good subject to bring up that is interesting to accountants?

 

[rojocorsa]

Don't ask don't tell sounds about right.

Just remember there is a time and place for everything, and perhaps the office might not be the best place. Unless, the people are down to earth/realistic.

It seems as if too many gun owners have faced disciplinary actions for talking about their interests at work.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

i would really like this internship and dont want to lose the opportunity.

There's your answer right there.

A good internship can build a reputation and network that can launch a career. Stay professional and focused on learning about the company and what would be required of you as an intern.

if I dont mention guns, what is a good subject to bring up that is interesting to accountants?

Remember, an office visit is a continuation of the interviewing process. You'll want to bring up questions about the company, corporate culture, accounting techniques, and things of that nature. If you want to find out about what people do, you might ask if there are any company organized clubs or teams. If someone asks you about your hobbies, they are rarely interested in your hobbies and are just seeing how you react. People tend to dwell on what is important to them and what they are focused on. If you spends 30 seconds answering a question about what you did at your last job and 10 minutes listing all your hobbies during your interview, they will learn a lot about you.

so influenced by the mass media - that all gun owners are tinfoil hat wearers and have a bunker, stockpiled with 7892348974789598734 rounds and grenades and are getting ready to overthrow the gov.

They don't need the mass media for that. Spend 2 hours reading almost any gun forum and you can come away with that belief.

 

[harmonic]

Absolutely do not bring up or otherwise introduce anything controversial into your preliminary conversations. That includes guns, politics, religion, sexual orientation, affirmative action, et al.

Now, if they bring something up, if I were the interviewee, I would interpret it as "baiting," and would ask, "Well, how do you feel about it?"

 

[OcelotZ3]

if I dont mention guns, what is a good subject to bring up that is interesting to accountants?

Golfing?

 

[Rockwell1]

if I dont mention guns, what is a good subject to bring up that is interesting to accountants?

The office visit can make or break you. I wouldn’t "bring up” anything let them bring up things that interest them and then ask questions about their interests. They’ll think you’re the best listener in the world if you let them talk about themselves. Then just throw in some relevant questions about the company and the job and you should be in.

 

[rbernie]

I have been a hiring manager for at least fifteen years now. I have never seen an interview or onsite visit that was aced by talking about personal stuff, but I've seen a lot of them tank because the candidate pissed off one of the screeners with personal information and/or observations.

Never talk about personal stuff. At all.

Ever.

You're there to talk about business. Stick to business.

 

[Claude Clay]

interesting to accountants......



insert 'engineer'.....get same answer
overheard at party, should we wake him?
wife.....he's not asleep; he looks like that when he is having fun.

treat an interview as an adversarial event: that's the police asking you questions and your
mom & 3rd grade teacher are listening in.topics brought up by 'him' are in the company's interest
and may be leading--in a mannor not in your best interest to follow.

besides--research of a company before an interview will tell you much.
not researching will likely get you not hired.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

What guns? I dont know anything about guns. **Looks about hiring area.. anyone else know anything about guns?

Im more interested in what break room facilities exist on the property. (Coffee Pot) And move on to other questions.

Call me a sneaker... but I dont tell the company NOTHING other than what is legally required...

*Yes boss, I dinged that chevy on the freeway, yes boss no one got hurt and no boss I wanst drinking etc."

 

[Trebor]

I'd bring up guns right after I discussed my sexual preferences and religious views.

(Yeah, that should get me the job...Right)

 

[Andy_C]

Can't hurt to sound interested in general prospects for the business - how is are the current economic conditions affecting the firm and their clients, do they anticipate positive outcomes from the stimulus package, what types of actions lead to improved prospects for the firm? Shows an interest in the bigger picture of the economy, still sounds like you are business focused. Would agree on staying away from initiating gun discussions or showing too much enthusiasm for any hobby that they inquire about.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

One thing that will definatley kill your job chances is putting down the paycheck casher as your personal reference.

 

[GRIZ22]

bringing up firearm topics a good or bad idea? i would really like this internship and dont want to lose the opportunity

You are trying to get a job not make range buddies. Your conversations should be focused on the business and what you can contribute to it. my advice would be the same if you were a shooter, hunter, PETA activist, or golfer.

 

[Rembrandt]

....what is a good subject to bring up that is interesting to accountants?

....how about....."What kind of accounting practices do you think Bernie Madoff used?"

 

[statelineblues]

Remember, an office visit is a continuation of the interviewing process.

Best advice I could give is listen to rbernie and Jorg - let the interviewer steer the interview.

 

[fastgunslinger]

follow,dont lead

 

[Walkalong]

Never talk about personal stuff. At all.

Ever.

You're there to talk about business. Stick to business.

Very good advise.

 

[warnerwh]

Remember they're priority is what you can do for them. People tend to forget the bottom line is what it's about. No controversial subjects should ever be brought up at an interview. The screener would immediately put that person in the "I can't wait until this person leaves class." Most likely the interview would be cut short if you're on the wrong side.

 

[BillyBothHands]

I've brought it up before. Of course i'm young, not married no kids so I can be picky but I like to drop it in so I know the type of people I'd be working with/for. Last part of the interview process for my current employer was lunch with the CEO. Should mention i'm in software development. A lot of developers their hobby is their own development projects. So the CEO asked what were my hobbies outside of software. I replied "shooting". He asked what kind? you mean hunting? I was just like well everything if it goes bang thats what i do lol. I realize that the rest of you probably have mouths to feed so you may not have the luxury, but I know I wouldn't be happy working with a bunch of hard core anti's. Not unhappy over disagreement of one issue but the hardcore group on that side seems to be short sighted on a lot of things in life.

I wouldn't suggest walking in and saying "Hi my name is Billy and I like guns". If something like the hobby thing comes up and you are prepared to not get the gig over it then I say go for it bring it up if that is important to you.

 

[gallo]

No religion, no politics, and definitively no guns - unless you are interviewing for Remington.