Canik TP series pistols
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ljnowell
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I bought my tp9sa from Buds.
Initial though on my TP9V2 was it feels really well built. Lives up to the many positive reviews I have read and seen on youtube. The trigger pull in DA and SA is pretty smooth with a crisp break. The reset is also really nice. Not really thrilled with the case it came in nor the holster it comes with. The case its self is ok, but the foam on the inside is cheap and does not have a good finish to it. I will not be using the Serpa style holster that comes with it because I am left handed, however I still would not use it, even if I could. It feels a bit on the lose side in regards to fitment to the gun and I feel that one or two good pull and the gun would come out without pressing the release button. It comes with 2 different back straps to adjust your grip but to be honest I could not tell a difference between the two. I really didn't care for the grip, even which changing out the back strap so I did add a set Talon Grips for the SA that fit my V2 just fine. The magazines that come with it are Mec Gar and are absolutely quality to match the rest of the gun.
Onto the gun its self, from the factory it is swimming in oil, so I went ahead and broke it down for a good initial cleaning. It breaks down almost exactly like a Glock and couldn't be really much simpler. I noticed a few things that I did no know about the V2 once I had it apart. First, the feed ramp is fully polished to a mirror finish. Secondly, the front sight appears not to be removable so you can forget putting on a set of night sights. Lastly, if you are a lefty such as myself, the magazine release can be swapped over to the other side with a little bit of patience. The slide lock is actually the only non ambidextrous feature of the V2.
Another draw back is the lack of aftermarket support for the V2.... well the TP9V1 and even the SA or SF for that matter. It does fit in a few of my holsters I have for my G19 including the kydex one but its not a perfect fit. For what you get at their current price point I think any model Canik is worth every penny.
Onto the gun its self, from the factory it is swimming in oil, so I went ahead and broke it down for a good initial cleaning. It breaks down almost exactly like a Glock and couldn't be really much simpler. I noticed a few things that I did no know about the V2 once I had it apart. First, the feed ramp is fully polished to a mirror finish. Secondly, the front sight appears not to be removable so you can forget putting on a set of night sights. Lastly, if you are a lefty such as myself, the magazine release can be swapped over to the other side with a little bit of patience. The slide lock is actually the only non ambidextrous feature of the V2.
Another draw back is the lack of aftermarket support for the V2.... well the TP9V1 and even the SA or SF for that matter. It does fit in a few of my holsters I have for my G19 including the kydex one but its not a perfect fit. For what you get at their current price point I think any model Canik is worth every penny.
MaterDei
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While I can't speak to the TP series I do have some experience with their CZ clones and own a C100. Overall, they make a very nice firearm especially considering the price.
I, like you, would not be comfortable buying a gun I couldn't first handle in person. Not because I would question the quality, in the case of a Canik, but more because I would want to know how the trigger, grip angle, manual of arms, etc. fit me.
I, like you, would not be comfortable buying a gun I couldn't first handle in person. Not because I would question the quality, in the case of a Canik, but more because I would want to know how the trigger, grip angle, manual of arms, etc. fit me.
stchman
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The S-120 is a CZ-75 clone. The OP was referring to the TP9 series.
I own the TP9, TP9SA, and TP9v2. For the money spent they are excellent handguns.
stchman
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From what I have read, the SF will be out sometime later in 2016.
You mean the most reviewed new to the US market gun in the last year or so, of course, lol.
I guarantee there are a lot more YouTube videos on Glock Springfield HK Sig S&W Ruger etc.
I've been really considering one just because of the reviews, I looked all over at reviews and videos and everybody loves it. The only things holding me back or a lack of need (could get ammo instead ya know) and current lack of aftermarket support since it's new and not a lot of people have one (holsters/sights)
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If money isn't too much of a difference to you, the P99 or PPQ are significantly more refined for trigger, finish (tiffener treated and black is more robust), smaller packages, and sights are better. The TP series copies the P99 and PPQ
I have owned the TP9 and three TP9SAs. I have also owned tons of P99s and PPQs.
I believe for finish wear alone, the Walthers are worth the price.
I have owned the TP9 and three TP9SAs. I have also owned tons of P99s and PPQs.
I believe for finish wear alone, the Walthers are worth the price.
Interesting opinion. Have you fired both? The reviews I've seen on the 'Tube say the triggers are effectively equal or damn close between the Canik and the Walther
ljnowell
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I disagree. But that's ok. We are entitled to our opinions. Although I do agree about finish, I'm not a fan of the cerakote they use on the canik. You are right that they could do better.
I like it enough that I overlook that though.
railroader
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Do they shoot to point of aim? I'm thinking about buying one but since there aren't going to be replacement sights of different heights I'm leery. I've seen a couple of reviews where the sights were off.
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I certainly can't tell the difference in the trigger between the Canik and the Walther. Both are very nice. You save yourself some money by going with the Canik and I don't think there's any difference to notice between the two guns in terms of trigger and reliability.
ljnowell
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Yes there are replacement sights. The tp9sa, sf, and v2 all Use cz75 sights. This is confirmed by their service department. The head service guy is on the tp9sa facebook page with pictures of his guns with cz75 sights. Easy to install too.
Inazone
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I bought a first-gen TP9 shortly after they started popping up, just looking to try something new without making a big investment. I was happy with the gun, and thus especially happy with the low $300 price of admission. Zero issues with it, and very comfortable in-hand. Eventually, I sold it to a co-worker buying his first handgun, and he likewise has been happy.
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I appreciate that two people disagreed with me when I said the Walther is worth purchasing over the Canik...when I said I've owned the TP9, TP9SA, P99, PPQ.
Confirm yourself. Any 500+ round review of the TP9(whatever model) has significant coating worn off on the barrel hood and slide. This simply doesn't happen with Walthers coating. It is an issue with the Canik because it does not have the metal treatment that prevents rust like Walther (teffiner treatment). You are essentially giving up the rust resisting agent and paying less for it.
Even when brand new, my three Desert Tan TP9SAs came with significant coating removed on the slide at the firing pin.
Confirm yourself. Any 500+ round review of the TP9(whatever model) has significant coating worn off on the barrel hood and slide. This simply doesn't happen with Walthers coating. It is an issue with the Canik because it does not have the metal treatment that prevents rust like Walther (teffiner treatment). You are essentially giving up the rust resisting agent and paying less for it.
Even when brand new, my three Desert Tan TP9SAs came with significant coating removed on the slide at the firing pin.
Olympus
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Kimber and Rock Island 1911s both have raw, exposed carbon steel barrels. A spray coating of Rem Oil and that's all they need to prevent rust. There's a heck of a lot of Rock Island and Kimber 1911s running around and having an untreated barrel doesn't seem to affect them. And unless the gun has been grossly neglected, I've never one with a rusted barrel.
And slide wear? Most people say that adds character to a gun. You can spend $2000 on a Les Baer and get bluing wear very quickly. Doesn't seem to affect those guns much, even at a premium price point.
And slide wear? Most people say that adds character to a gun. You can spend $2000 on a Les Baer and get bluing wear very quickly. Doesn't seem to affect those guns much, even at a premium price point.
ljnowell
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I appreciate that two people disagreed with me when I said the Walther is worth purchasing over the Canik...when I said I've owned the TP9, TP9SA, P99, PPQ.
Confirm yourself. Any 500+ round review of the TP9(whatever model) has significant coating worn off on the barrel hood and slide. This simply doesn't happen with Walthers coating. It is an issue with the Canik because it does not have the metal treatment that prevents rust like Walther (teffiner treatment). You are essentially giving up the rust resisting agent and paying less for it.
Even when brand new, my three Desert Tan TP9SAs came with significant coating removed on the slide at the firing pin.
Because you've owned them Doesn't make it fact, it makes it an opinion.
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I own four Canik pistols. A C100, two L120's, and a TP9SA. In my opinion the TP9SA trigger is lighter and better than the Walther P99's trigger.
It is true that the finish could be better and wears fairly quick compared to the tennifer treatment the Walthers get. Whether or not that justifies double the cost boils down to the user. That said the cost to have a gun ceracoted isn't outrageous. I still think the TP9 is a better deal, although it'd be nice if they switched from Ceracote to a more durable finish. If they did this though, the gun wouldn't be $350 so I can live with it.
It is true that the finish could be better and wears fairly quick compared to the tennifer treatment the Walthers get. Whether or not that justifies double the cost boils down to the user. That said the cost to have a gun ceracoted isn't outrageous. I still think the TP9 is a better deal, although it'd be nice if they switched from Ceracote to a more durable finish. If they did this though, the gun wouldn't be $350 so I can live with it.
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